i think you guys are being a little harsh on the geckos. there like a $100 for a set they get the job done not everyones got $200 to spend on a set of skat traks. dont get me wrong i run haulers myself but 2 of my friends run geckos on yfz450s and 2 run sand stars and there is no place where the one can go and the others cant. believe it or not the bike with the geckos is the fastest all bikes have same mods pipe, k&n, jetted.