Thack, you must not have looked very hard!! I've read most all threads covering front ends. trying to decide which way to go. Seeing I have a J-arm that I just re-painted and knowing that the YFZ front end is a love/hate thing that might be a willing to admit failure thing, I'm just getting new Js. Soon as Stellar has the site back up so I can see what he has cause seems no one else makes them now. Still undecided on shocks as far as length, stock or extended. I'm all for making and modifying, I'd make my own Js if I had a bender, I've got a welder, have had 3 different jobs as a welder so that's not an issue. But at the end of the day the YFZ swap doesn't sound all that great. JMHO, your results and opinion may (and will) vary.