based off the fact that in the dunes i ride there are trails, im gonna have to go with dunes. have you trail guys ever ridden WOT while being blinded by the terrain you're riding on? riding in the dunes during summer is like snowbording on a sunny day, the glare from the sand doesnt let you see shit and drop offs and razor backs come out of nowhere. and like i said, where i ride there are trails too. not just put put trails but haul ass trails like some of the ones you guys ride. we got tree's and all and we gotta worry about riders going the opposite direction that we cant see coming around the corners because of the dunes, trees, brush etc...that are in the way. basically what i'm sayin is, riding in the dunes isnt as easy as it sounds. a lot of people assume its easy because a lot of what they see is just guys drag racing or runnin the big bowls in glamis. theres a lot more to it than just that.