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pipes andfilters still for sale.

Motor, pipes, filters and a-arms pending

Ok guys, I was getting close to being done with my 4mil. project shee, unfortanately I need a new truck, so Ive got to get rid of some of my toys. I am selling everything to my banshee, and have enough stuff to build a whole bike. It pains me to see it go but here we go.... Here just some of the bigger things that im starting with first. All prices are plus shipping and 4% paypal fee, I am willing to work with you guys to help with shipping so resonable offers accepted. Toomey T-5 pipes and silencers w/ a fresh 2 week old chrome colored cermaic coat, these things only had 20 mins of runtime on my old motor before I tore it down again (includes silencer screws and all o-rings) $375 Fully built 4mil. stroker motor. Parts in this thing include- Pro-design cool head with 21cc stroker cut domes, Agressive dune ported cylinders (done by wildcard racing) they also have a black ceramic coa on them, Wiseco 795 series pistons, 4mil. long rod stroker crank (true welded, with max load bearing), Black powder coated cases, ported reed cages with vitos carbon tech 2 stage reeds, boss 34mm intake w/ built in crossover, billet water pump impeller, ricky stator adjustable timing plate set at +4, tusk clutch kit w/ 3HD springs 3 stock springs, pancake bearing, the only thing you need is a clutch side gasket as I didnt get around to replacing it before I made this decision. This motor has no run time, I did a leak down test on it and it lost 1/2 PSI after 6 minutes. $1350 Kehein PJ 34mm carbs, black paint caps, and brand new still inplastic carb cables (not picturedd), you just need the screw in pieces that screw into the top of the carb. $185 Brand new K&N pods with outer wears, I belive they fit 33-36mm carbs (could be wrong, they fit the 34mm I got them for) $75 This is just a starter list, the frame, swing arm, axle, carrier, a-arms everything is for sale, so if you see something in these pics you want or are looking for something you dont see in these pics for something PM me I probably have it Some other things I know I have is off the top of my head is some wiseco STD. bore pistons with 20 minutes of run time, all the motor electronics, steering stem, radiator.... and a whole lot more! (The frame and all red/maroon parts are actually a dark maroon with a redish tint and have a color changing sparkle overlay) here's a few more pics

to me the type of system you get will all depend on what kind of games you mostly play. I have a 360 right now but like if I played sports games a lot i would want a PS3 just because Im more comfortable with the PS3 since Ive been a playstation guy since the first playstation came out.

I was running 20 cc domes on my trail ported motor with similar other mods to you at around the same elevation. If you want to be safe 21cc would be good.

I think its pretty cool for them to develope the 2 into 1, if it works out it worls out, if it doesnt it doesnt. However, a lot of things we have today we wouldnt have if people hadnt tried something new, or tried to improve on an existing idea. I guess we will just have to see how it goes.

It makes sense. Any rubber like material will absorb vibrations, so the extra weight combine with the silicone would absorb more of the vibrations. Its kind of the same concept as painting the inside of a boat or car with a rubberized coating to absorb motor vibrations

PRM makes one google search PRM ATV, cuz I cant remember the website

Haha yeah it does. Thanks, I been pretty busy for a while, but I finally got back to working on the shee and messing aroung on the HQ. In fact Ill have the 4mil completely done in the next week or two and am hoping by December Ill have all the other parts to where Ill only have some cosmetic things like plastics to paint and seat cover left to do, realistically probably more like mid january though

Thanks for straightening this topic out Heath. I figured you or Fouledout would do it. I just got tired of seeing him contradict everything we tried to tell him. Too much on my mind laltely and not a lot of patience haha. Good to see some of the old names around though

X4 Wildcard has excellent customer service, been dealing with them ever since I first came on BHQ about 3 years ago

I was off of the HQ for a while, and once I came back I noticed there was a lot of new names I hadnt seen before, this isnt a bad thing, but I noticed along with it there has been a lot of BS since Ive came back to the site.... As far as the 4mil. thing, instead of trying to sort through the BS, just call Brandon at Wildcard, Jeff at F.A.S.T. or Kevin at Herr Juggs and ask them what you need to know.

Theres hundreds of options out there for you, best thing to do is email a reputable builder and talk to them about the best options for you based on what kind of riding you do

I know you have to have port work done regardless, I have a 4mil. However cubs are purpose built. And unless they are power valve cheetah cubs the power band is not great for trails or mild duning. Like I said it depends on what you are building the motor for and what your budget is. Normally people dont port it them selves thay send it to the builder in which case it is like having an out of the ox cylinder because you get it back and bolt it on.

I dont agree with using a cub being easier because it is more expensive and while you can use cubs for anything, they are designed for drag racing and come stock with a drag race port on them. It all depends on what the motor is being build for. I should also add that you cant just buy a cub and use it for any stroke, what he means by they are designed for all different strokes is they have a cub cylinder for each stroke. As far as blaster pistons, thats a whole other subject. Blaster pistons are a larger than banshee pistons. If you want to run them you have to have your cylinders bored out quite a bit or run a cub cylinder. If you are on a budget or use to riding a stock or lightly modified banshee, then go with a 4mil stock cylinder bike for a while and if you want more power you can alway get a cub cylinder and new pistons down the road

The difference between a normal 4mil. and long rod is on a long rod the piston rods are 5 millimeters longer, this helps reduces the side load on the piston, because when putting in a longer stroke you increase side load due to the angle of the rod. It is a long term reliability thing. As far as the rest of it, yes you need stroker pistons, Wiseco 795 series are what most people run. The spacer plate is a cheap way of doing it and is not recommended. The best way is have your cylinders ported for the longer stroke and have your domes cut or buy some stroker cut domes. I dont have the numbers on me as far as porting the cylinder for a stroker but any builder should be able to help you out.

I personally havnt heard of it being in the bottom of the jug... I have heard of them porting the transfer ports so far that they weld on the outside of the jug to add extra material, so I personally would be a little skeptical, however I have been out of the banshee scene for a little while so Im not sure. Its possible that some of the drag quads could have this, someone should chime in with some better info.

Theres no way in hell a set of spark plugs gives you about the same horse power gains as a set of pipes

first thing would be check your plugs, also check to make sure your floats arent stuck

Porting is never a bad idea if you want more power. It will wake your shee up quite a bit. Depending on the cylinders they may already have a port from the manufacture, like I believe the cub cylinders and such have.

Do you still have the PJ 34's?

That is what I was saying. The guy above me said its a waste of time and I said I disagree... I know that Many builders that spend most of there time on banshees suggest that if you arent running an all out drag motor then just port your stockers because you dont need the VF3. As I said before I had ported cages on my trail ported motor, and I am porting a set for my 4mil. aggressive dune ported motor. I have had good luck with ported cages, as I have done them for a few YZ125's as well. Why spend more money on expensive reed set ups when you dont have to.

As far as drag bike I believe most guys suggest going to alky. To do it you do have to bump the comp. a little more but that means more power. It is more maintainance for alky as im sure you know, but it seems to me that you dont really like running alky so why switch?

Anything you do to change air flow will require a jetting change. As far as porting, there's more than one way to do it. While different builders claim different power increases with the ported cages, most of the power will be made by changing your reed petals, the porting is to accent the petals really. As far as a waste of time... I disagree. I have ported my cages for both motors Ive built. The first motor I ported them one way and the new 4mil. I ported them a different way. You have 3 basic options for reeds that most people choose for your banshee. VF3, porting with new petals, and the new one is the Chariot performance cages. I havnt heard much about the chariot reeds, although I know they have done their research with flow technology and have made a good product. I dont however know where their reeds make power. As far as the other 2 options, beings that VF3's are really made for top end, unless you have a drag bike porting your cages with new petals will work just as good, and since the petals are only $40 compared to $280 it costs for VF3's you can choose. On a side note I believe the Chariot cages are about $165

Nice color... I think it adds a unique touch to it, like doing metallic paint on a car, its just takes it to e new level.