i'm just currious why people say that boring you cylinders isn't going to do any thing for you. a larger combustion chamber more fuel = more power. the ounce or or so that the larger pistons (depending on the size you go to) add should be more than off set by the increase in power. a long rod stroker will add just about as much extra mass rotating as say a .020 bore. granted the stoker will build more torque than a bore due to a longer time the piston is pushed by the explosion of the fuel charge. have people forgotten the old saying no replacement for displacement. maybe it just me but i don't see how putting longer rods on your cranks and a spacer under you cylinder is doing any thing more than keeping your stroke the same length because you haven't moved the pin on the crank further away from center of rotation on the crank shaft and lifted your combustion chamber 4 milimeters higher.to truely make it a stoker you need to move the pins further away from the center line of the crank shaft its self thus giving you more distance traveled up and down. once again i don't know it all and i don't know if the stroker cranks are made that way, ( i've never had one to compare to a stock crank), i am not an engine builder i am just curious about how stuff works. feel free to set me straight.