If you guy's haven't been to the Badlands in Attica Indiana you ought to look into it. It's about 5mi. off of hwy 41, probably about a 2hr drive for ya. If you decide to go let me or Mrmatt know and we will meet you there and give directions. It's about 6-700 acres of woods, sand dunes (small), and hills. It used to be a couple of old gravel pits. I know the owners real well and have alot of ammenities like, food, parts, camping, and a shop for repairs. All you need is a flag and they sell them there. $15 gets you in or $20 for 2 days.