my buddy swears by them, he took them off of a 01' raptor, and put them on his banshee, but he also has +2 arms, he also used the rear shock , I did notice, that it sits up a bit higher than my bike with same size tires, so I would guess, they have more pre-load, stiffer springs atc. I gave him an older set of works w/out reservoirs, with a fresh charge, and he took them back off in favor of the stock raptor shocks....for what its worth