I just don't really know what to say. Honda has thought so far ahead that their bikes set standards, shit that must be over engineered! Sure it may look stupid to the casual 18 year old, highly uneducated observer, so that must mean it is pointless. Just like that tiny gas tank on their new 450r. How are you supposed to win some trail races with that little gas? Well you get your pussy ass off the trails and onto a track for where the bike was designed. Or would that be over engineered? And why waste time casting those crazy aluminum frames, they were doing it long before anyone else. Oh, wait, because they are lighter and more rigid. But that would be over engineered. Just because you are a douche, and settle for riding a SunL scooter to high school doesn't mean you have to dog the industry leaders as being too well thought out; because like Brad said, it's like saying your paint is too shiny. It just doesn't fucking happen.