Klotz Question

[Beat taco]

I've always mixed R50 in my race gas but accidentally picked up Super Techniplate and noticed it's about $10 less a gallon. Any reason to pay more for R50?

 

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[specialblend07]

OIL IS OIL RUN IT

[ZillaFreak]

Read up on both.

http://www.klotzlube.com/techsheets/KL-104 Tech Sheet.pdf

http://www.klotzlube.com/techsheets/KL-100 Tech Sheet.pdf

[Tedder]

Don't know where you're located but in our Ohio climate you will get rust formation on the internals with Super Techniplate if it sit's much. 

[Ayesully810]

5 hours ago, Tedder said:

Don't know where you're located but in our Ohio climate you will get rust formation on the internals with Super Techniplate if it sit's much. 

I thought that super tech was better to run in colder weather? Im in michigan 

[97Screamer]

Oh no, the oil debates have migrated from FB to the forum. 

[Keno]

Pretty sure Super Techniplate doesn't contain rust inhibitors.  Not a big deal if you ride often or use fogging oil before long term storage.

[Ayesully810]

i guess ive never really thought of this because ive never had an assembled motor during the winter, but from basically november- march its freaking  cold here in MI and it will be sitting in the un heated garage,  the inside of the motor can rust??

[Keno]

Maybe, Probably not.  I'm no expert, but it's been my understanding that some synthetic oils are slightly hygroscopic (absorb moisture). Manufacturers use additives to counteract this.  Race oils I guess often contain lesser amounts and are not recommended for long term storage. I'm betting it is a bigger problem in humid climates and in watercraft. 

Honestly, I would probably run either oil.  Contacting Klotz would be the best way to get a definitive answer.

[Tedder]

Geez, I don't know why I ever bother posting to help others. What I share is first hand factual information and not heresay BS like 80% of what get's posted.  

And yes - Super Techniplate is hygroscopic that will rust your crank in short order under the right conditions. It doesn't take a full winter of storage. Our race season runs from the end of April through November (usually less) depending on the weather here in Northeast Ohio. 

We used Klotz Uplon for purging to help with the rusting problem.

 

 

[Beat taco]

Thanks for the good info, I did some googling before posting and read about a possible rust issue. Good to hear from someone with first hand experience.

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[trickedcarbine]

On 11/30/2018 at 9:33 PM, Ayesully810 said:

i guess ive never really thought of this because ive never had an assembled motor during the winter, but from basically november- march its freaking  cold here in MI and it will be sitting in the un heated garage,  the inside of the motor can rust??

Yes. Especially when that shed gets some sun on a cold day. Everything starts to condensate. Inside the motor is no exception. 

[ZillaFreak]

On 11/30/2018 at 9:33 PM, Ayesully810 said:

i guess ive never really thought of this because ive never had an assembled motor during the winter, but from basically november- march its freaking  cold here in MI and it will be sitting in the un heated garage,  the inside of the motor can rust??

Yes. Always best to start it up once a week or so just to make sure the insides have oil on them.

[ClaudeMachining]

I oil top of pistons and never start it. I just move the pistons couples of times with kick starter.

 

I think that starting the engine make the problem worst, cause your doing a heat cycle...

 

I base my comment on 40 years of experience with the storage of snowmobiles.

 

 

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[Ayesully810]

i put oil in the cylinder per cylmers and kick it over several times once a week.