Dgrey Posted August 19, 2007 Author Report Posted August 19, 2007 Alright well I think I might have figured something. I took of the right side carb... the one on the side that was not running right and not smoking as much. I took off the float bowl and the plastic piece that slides over the JET was in the bowl and not stuck over the jet like it sould have been. ALSO WTF is the problem here... Is the actual jet supposed to go up and down on the piece that it screws into??? The actual jet screws into the middle area of the float bowl and once its screwed in (which its hard to screw it into) because the peace that accepts the jet moves up and down! Something is not right here... Please advise I did not check with the other side that is running correctly simply because it is running well on the left side. Quote
peak-j Posted August 19, 2007 Report Posted August 19, 2007 The jet should never move, does anything look broke or what? Can you post any pics of what is moving. They really should screw in that hard either. I'm guessing something got broke there. Quote
Dgrey Posted August 19, 2007 Author Report Posted August 19, 2007 The jet should never move, does anything look broke or what? Can you post any pics of what is moving. They really should screw in that hard either. I'm guessing something got broke there. Alright so here is what happened. The plastic piece that slips over the jet fell off and into the float boal and the piece that the jet screws into itself was moveing. So, I took off the other side and saw that it had a washer that held the jet against the carb so the piece that the carb screws into would not slide. That problem has been solved. I had to go get a new washer and that was a PITA to find. Right after I got the carbs back together it was smoking a LOT more out of the left side so I revved the shit out of it and killed the engine. The left spart plug looked okay for just a rev up but the right side plug looked BRAN NEW like it had never even sparked before. Please note that I did put bran new plugs in after all the work that I did to the bike................. So I get it all back together finally and take it down the street. Please note that the guy that did the porting is starting me off with the fatest jet possible because he said its better safe than sorry. So now I have it running and its idleing and its smoking and feels the same out of both sides so I take it down the street. I actually have enough power this time to make it UP the driveway. I get on the street and start to accelarate in 1st gear and right when it about to hit the power band it goes chug, chug, chug, so I shift into 2nd and right when it is about to hit the power band it goes chug, chug, chug, like it wished is could actually hit the power band. Given the mods I have what would you say that is? coule this be a sign that the main jet is WAY to fat? Couled it be the ricky 200 watt stator? Please help a brotha out. I know that I can not jet the bike correctly on the street because I will be riding with haulers in the sand, but something is wrong. Let me know what you think I should try next. Try jetting down to a 340 instead of a 350? I also have 330's because the guy that did the porting said the stock carbs would need something between 350 and 330 for sand and the haulers. Quote
RoostRocket Posted August 19, 2007 Report Posted August 19, 2007 sounds like your running rich to me. ive never had to re jet just because im going to the sand and i am running paddles unless its a drastic change in temp and or elevation. that seems weird he would tell you that... try a smaller main.and if you can i would do a plug chop. i did my first plug chop about a month ago and it told me everything i needed to know. Quote
paulnyw Posted August 19, 2007 Report Posted August 19, 2007 i would go to the next size smaller main sounds like it is to rich like stated above do a plug chop it will tell you exactly how your motor is runing Quote
micorps1 Posted August 19, 2007 Report Posted August 19, 2007 I would recommend a trinity stage IV 2-in-1 if you did all that work. Quote
Dgrey Posted August 19, 2007 Author Report Posted August 19, 2007 where does it spit it out ,at? sounds like your running rich to me. ive never had to re jet just because im going to the sand and i am running paddles unless its a drastic change in temp and or elevation. that seems weird he would tell you that... try a smaller main.and if you can i would do a plug chop. i did my first plug chop about a month ago and it told me everything i needed to know. I'll try going from a 350 main to a 340 and I guess I can research on how to do a plug chop. I'll report back here when done. Quote
BellicoseBanshee Posted August 19, 2007 Report Posted August 19, 2007 I guess I can research on how to do a plug chop. Found this in the forums: Plug Chop Quote
Dgrey Posted August 20, 2007 Author Report Posted August 20, 2007 Found this in the forums: Plug Chop Thanks for the link. I can not even get the bike up to enough RMP while riding it to even do an accurate plug check/chop. The right side seems okay but when I took the plug out of the left side it lookd bran new like its never been used. I know that side is running because the pipe smokes, but something is wrong. I put new plugs in it after I put the engine back together. Quote
RZBansheeMan Posted August 20, 2007 Report Posted August 20, 2007 (edited) Hey there Dgrey, I am not trying to insult your intelligence so please don't be offended, but did you put the motor together yourself ? And if so, did you install the pistons in the right direction ? The arrow on top points to the exhaust and the windows in the skirt goes towards the intake. Also did you re-sync the carbs after the TORS removal ? Edited August 20, 2007 by RZBansheeMan Quote
Dgrey Posted August 20, 2007 Author Report Posted August 20, 2007 Hey there Dgrey, I am not trying to insult your intelligence so please don't be offended, but did you put the motor together yourself ? And if so, did you install the pistons in the right direction ? The arrow on top points to the exhaust and the windows in the skirt goes towards the intake. Also did you re-sync the carbs after the TORS removal ? No offence taken. I never actually removed the pistons. They are in great condition the bike is an 05 and has low hours. I did not re-sync the barbs after the TORS removal because I don't have the tool yet. Its in the mail on its way to my house. I know that some people sync by eye so that is what I tried to do and they are spot on according to my eyes. What I dont understand is how the right side is running so much different then the left! Quote
bigboybanshee Posted August 20, 2007 Report Posted August 20, 2007 Have you checked to make sure the right side is in fact getting spark? Pull the coil wire and plug on that side, put the plug in the wire and hold it where the metal on the plug is touching the head, kick it over a few times and see if you get a spark. If you are getting spark, I'd check for air leaks...around the base of the cylinders and intake manifolds. Quote
Dgrey Posted August 20, 2007 Author Report Posted August 20, 2007 Have you checked to make sure the right side is in fact getting spark? Pull the coil wire and plug on that side, put the plug in the wire and hold it where the metal on the plug is touching the head, kick it over a few times and see if you get a spark. If you are getting spark, I'd check for air leaks...around the base of the cylinders and intake manifolds. I have not checked for spark yet. I will do that tonight even through I dont know why it would not spark when it worked fine and hauled a$$ before I got it ported. Ohh maybe because I installed a 200watt ricky stator and timing plage and advanced the timing to +6 could have something to do with it. How do I go about checking for air leaks? Start it and feel around with my hand? Spray some water with soap in it and look for bubbles like on a tire bead? Quote
XxMeltIcexX Posted August 20, 2007 Report Posted August 20, 2007 check the coil, plug caps, etc... I dont believe it could be the coil if only one sideshaving the problem.. And if your builder said to start rich i wouldnt take my shit there again, how are you going to "break-in" if you drown it in oil, just mix 32:1 and do your heat up cycles (which i hope you already did) and do a couple easy rides, then run it like a raped ape. Ive always broken in my bikes being hard on them. Never had a problem either.. Theres a site that was on here a while ago that stated to Break it in liek you ride it but the search engine isnt working for me right now for some reason.. Take that jet down until you see some improvment (if thats even the case)... Heres the Link, i finally found it: http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm Let us know how everything goes Eric Quote
shanYE west Posted August 20, 2007 Report Posted August 20, 2007 (edited) I noticed you said you put in a timing plate.. You might want to double check your pickup coil gap. Edited August 20, 2007 by Fouledout420 Quote
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