bush or kerry

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[Meat]

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holy hell thats a good photoshop job

[rocketboy]

Can someone post Bush's current approval rating  

 

 

a whopping 39% and yo u know thats mostly just old senial senior citizens running on embalming fluid who never even heard of Iraq or understand why the current economy sucks ballz so bad .... yep we're all behind you pres

Edited November 12, 2005 by rocketboy

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a whopping  39% and yo u know thats mostly just old senial senior citizens  running on embalming fluid who never even heard of Iraq or understand why the current economy sucks ballz  so bad  .... yep we're  all behind you  pres 

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Wait wait wait, for one most of the senior citizens you describe vote dem. The problem that hasn't been determined is where that rating comes from among democrats Bush is has a 7-12% approval rating in order to get 39% as a median approval you've got to see some huge numbers on the non dem side but I don't know of a single strong conservative who would approve of him right now either since he hasn't done anything with the borders, tax cuts, or quite frankly acted like himself. He made an attempt to act like himself yesterday and I thought his speech was a step in the right direction.

 

On the economy I still don't know why everybody is saying it sucks, unemployment is super low 5.4% or something like that equivilant to the almighty moral champion Clinton. I don't know anybody who hasn't bought a new to them car in the last couple of years. Interest rates have been great. More people own homes today than ever. My company has significantly increased it's workforce. Every hard working person has or can have money to spend right now. Maybe people are too young to remember when these things weren't that good, 25 years ago unemployment was over 12% interest on a home was 15%+. Look at the amount of money people on this site can throw at things we've got 15 year olds with new yfz's, too many people running cubs simply for the HP, we've got people throwing streetbike motors in quad frames. People rolling $40,000 trucks to pull there $30,000 trailer. Metal shops are backlogged for weeks, landscapers and excavators have to turn away jobs. $3.00 gas and a major hurricane at a time of war has not hardly caused a ripple in the economy. Money is flowing like mad, that's the sign of a good economy. There were times when people had to tell there kinds sorry I can't buy you a $300 video game system cause we need to eat, pay the mortgage, car payment.... Now kids get the system and another $300 in games. If someones outlook on the economy is poor it's probably a lack of effort combined with their own wasteful spending. My .02

[rocketboy]

i said decrepped seniors just for the comic effect dawg ,but i agree on many things ,i am a independant and didnt like clinton either , bush has had his chance many times but continues to "drop the ball" on many key issues ,and the unemploymenty numbers are fake in case you didnt know ,due to the fact once your 26weeks is up... your off the % polls , he doesnt care that china is crushing our manufacturing and well all be in low paying service jobs soon ,he doesnt care the oil companys have had record profits despite all these global hardships,hell he is part of the oil companys lol . the borders arent even close to being secured or our jobs .he actually thinks nafta is a good idea ,which is scary for our childrens future ,the list goes on and on ...but i dont blame him for everything ,jus tfor the shit he could have made right.. but was out bassfishing with his ten gallon hat on instead :confused:america has clearly spoken, now what is he gonna do about it ??????

 

below is excerpt of a current approval rating that can be found o n todays MSN.com

 

"Now is the autumn of Bush

Edited November 12, 2005 by rocketboy

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he doesnt care that china is crushing our manufacturing and well all be in low paying service jobs soon  ,he doesnt care the oil companys have had record profits despite all these global  hardships,hell he is part of the oil companys lol

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It's funny that in my oil industry job we can't build in China, when we build in China it can only be sold to China. I dare you to compare the profits of big oil to the profits of the entertainment industry. What kind of profits do the satellite tv, cable, music and movie companies make??? Global hardships is a crock, money is flowing like never before many industries are experiencing record profits and that's what happens when a $500,000 machine can produce 50 times what a $30,000/year worker can. Not sure where you live but if you've ever been around the gulf coast the oil and shipping industry is the lifeblood of the region. What do you expect the oil companies to do when the price of a barrel of crude doubles on the futures market? They crank as many barrels out as possible they are going to make money that's the way it is. Also check the gov profit compared to the oil industries profits all that tax money isn't gonna make the gov't change the oil industry. There wasn't really a major drop in consumption, supply and demand wasn't fueling the prices like it should be. What I don't understand is why people don't invest in the oil industry more instead they just bitch and moan but they could be reaping the rewards just like everybody else. On the China goods thing I love hearing people complain then get in there foreign car, talk on their foreign phone, listen to their foreign i-pod, wear their foreign clothes... They wouldn't get the money if people didn't keep buying their stuff. Our society demands Chinese goods that's the way it is. I remember when everything in Wal-Mart was made in the USA but the government didn't make them change we did.

[rocketboy]

  On the China goods thing I love hearing people complain then get in there foreign car, talk on their foreign phone, listen to their foreign i-pod, wear their foreign clothes... They wouldn't get the money if people didn't keep buying their stuff.  Our society demands Chinese goods that's the way it is.  I remember when everything in Wal-Mart was made in the USA but the government didn't make them change we did.

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our nation demands low priced products ,and theres no reaso n we cant make them usa made shit for fair prices ,but it isnt much of a level playing feild when your only option is buy chinese... or nothing and your govt turns the other direction ,oh and foreign import cars dont come from china ,its more like japan ,big difference there BTW ,but thats why i own only gm/ chevy products .manufacturing is being crushed in this country through slave labor china and the bush administration has done nothing but promote this unethical practice against american workers ,there are many types of manufacturing and the higher tech kind like ive been involved in requires years of skill and know how,and cant be replicated by a robot or automated programming though they can help make it slightly more efficient ,look at packard delphi(gms electronic co.) they are one of the worlds biggest companys they just filed for banckrupcy in oct and 25,000+ jobs were lost so far and so many more companys like them are going down the toilet ,but what do i know? .. ive only been in manufacturing for most of my life and work as a plant manager of a hig htech tool and die /injection mold making company that does work for other companys all over the world .

[Meat]

Leading American Economic Idicators for the past 5 years.....

 

Dow Jones:

2000: 10,600

2001: 9,800

2002: 8,400

2003:10,400

2004:10,600

Today:10,686

 

Nasdaq:

2000:3400

2001:2800

2002:2000

2003:1300

2004:2200

Today:2202

 

S&P 500:

2000:1500

2001:1350

2002:1160

2003:890

2004:1100

Today:1234

 

Have fun spinning those numbers.... let me get the spinning started... Its all Clintons fault for the bubble leading up to 2000..... or remember this one.... it takes 4 years to start showing the economic effects of the current administration.... how bout Wall Street is made up of those crazy liberals and they numbers are biased.... or how bout this spin, the liberal media only shows the bad indices, show the oil industry's 5 year chart to really see how the president... err.. american economy is doing.

Edited November 13, 2005 by Meat

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oh and foreign import cars dont come from china ,its more like japan ,big difference there BTW ,but  thats why i own only gm/ chevy  products

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I know foreign cars are Japanese but I'm pointing them out as people buying cheap and China is slated to start production on cars and then there goes the car market cause people unlike you and me will go out and buy them. I try to not buy anything foreign unless there's no replacement. I was a little PO'd when I ordered my girlriends i-pod and the thing shipped from China to Hong Kong to Alaska to Indiana to Iowa wtf I figured they'd atleast have a wharehouse here but nope that costs too much. I'd have spent double to get a made in the USA one but that's me. Don't get me wrong I'm not that happy with the direction the gov is going right now either, I wish we'd lock our countries doors to illegals and I'm still waiting for SS reform and permanent tax cuts. It's pretty bothersome when we only worry about some CIA leak and when we got dems still trying to claim they didn't really vote for the war. It's about time everybody lined up and started working for some sort of advancement instead of trying to solve why things happened in the past in order to place blame. One side doesn't want the pres to succeed at anything and that is not helping our country.Also here's the 10 year average hourly earnings chart from the department of labor.

It's unfortunate but numbers like that will surely mean more Chinese goods under the tree this year. Costs go up and consumers go elsewhere.

 

 

Meat, the way I see it there's only two parties that get elected in this country you don't like the presidents party but name one thing that the other party has accomplished in the last 5 years?

[Meat]

im a registered Republican, iv been a republincan for 15 years !! I call em like I se em, if the democrats were stinkin up the whitehouse right now, I'd be the first one in line bitching about the democrats. Iv lost faith in both parties. And just for the record, I despise Chinese imports and Wal-Mart too.

 

I live in a small town of around 8000. Wal-Mart supercenter moved into town about 8 years ago and honest to god, just like predicted, all the small business either went of business or they're speciatly shops. We had a K-Mart, Ames, JCPenny and Sears here in town, they are all out of business, the buildings they once occoupied are now vacant. The K-mart and Ames buildings are as large a standard Wal-Mart buildings and they've been vacant and for sale for years now. No one's gonna move into these buildings and try to compete with Wal-Mart. Most of us are now forced to shop at WalMart or travel 35 miles to the nearest shopping mall.

 

Iv' told yous all before about how China is dominating the business I work, the hardwood furniture industry. The place I work for has been in business for 40 years, and frankly we're going to go out of business, we're one of the last american companies in this sector. We can't compete with China's labor rates, the fine people who I work with havent had a single raise in 4 years and thats no exaggeration, less than a month ago, managment gave all the hourly employees(600 of us) a 5% pay reduction, so your hourly employment chart doesnt help me pay my bills. What I need to do is...... quit my job and get a job at the brand new Wal-Mart distribution center that is opening 30 miles away from home, they're payin' 16 bucks an hour for dock workers ! Thats pretty good pay for this area

Edited November 13, 2005 by Meat

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Iv lost faith in both parties. 

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Yep. It wouldn't have mattered if Kerry had won. Kerry and Bush are both admitted

bonesman (skull and bones secret society). Therefore they both support a masonic agenda. The oath to their "order" supercedes any oaths of public service that they may have taken. Their goal is to submit us to UN objectives. Haven't heard much from the UN lately regarding their position on our actions in the middle east. Not long ago they were expressing disapproval. Now they apparently approve even though there is considerable evidence to support discension. The people that were rioting in France and Argentina know what's going on.

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im a registered Republican, iv been a republincan for 15 years !!

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I still think the republicans are a baby step in the right direction from the dems. I know what you mean though on Walmart, my hometown is 2500 people no walmart but you can't get anything you want without finding one. It's sad but we are the ones that put Walmart in power everybody trying to save a buck, I just bought my groceries there yesterday, cause I was there. Good wood furniture is hard to find too, people don't want to spend the money to get something nice. Right now all my tables are glass and metal but when I do start buying wood it's hard to find and expensive but worth every penny, nothing is made to last anymore it's a use it and throw it away society.

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, we've got people throwing streetbike motors in quad frames.  .

 

hey i resemble that remark

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hey i resemble that remark

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[Blue Duece]

...... quit my job and get a job at the brand new Wal-Mart distribution center that is opening 30 miles away from home, they're payin' 16 bucks an hour for dock workers ! Thats pretty good pay for this area

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or just start your own biz, i know it sounds harsh............ but fuck it move out of there and work on bikes?.....i know 16 bucks an hour wont keep air in your tires in california..carve a niche that some asshole cant farm out to china.........