it all depends how you get the shocks sprung, a shock set up for trail riding will sit higher, the reason you hear the elkas sit lower is because if you get them set up with the ssd (self saging spring) the first spring is real light so it compresses under the weight of the bike so it rides lower but you stil have full shaft travel and the valving does the work, you can get elkas set up for trail riding without the ssd spring or dunes ar whatever you want. i dont think the works shocks are available with the ssd spring, or some compananies call them zero preload shocks because you can change the ride height without changing the spring rate