I guess i just don't get where you are hearing all of this bad feedback on them. If you read the dealers feedback on ebay (he goes by quadpartsguy) the only negative responses are for slow shipping or poor communication. Not one of 'em said the product was poor. And as far as strength goes, it can't be hard to make somethin stronger than the stock arms. I mean mine haven't broken and they lined up when I installed them, what more can you ask for? Oh, and if I sounded pissed off thats my bad, I didn't mean it to come across that way.