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I think I read somewhere that rubber and aluminum was the fuel used in that virgin atlantic space ship one. I think you would also need some compressed oxygen to get it to burn once it caught fire.

Not as plentiful as Banshee parts. There are WAY more aftermarket parts for the Banshee. That is just a fact. Everyone has a banshee that they are parting out. How many of you that own 250rs are planning on chopping them this summer to sell as parts? Ebay has so much Banshee stuff it makes me sick. Most of it has no bids, too. The 250r is just an inferior machine in the dunes. Hillshoot or duning, Banshee is king. My group makes the 250rs ride in the rear of the snake because they are just too damn slow. Sure, you can wheelie all day on one, but they just can't pull bowls like a shee. I may be an idot, but if you ride your twofiddy with me at the dunes, this idot will be roosting on you all damn day, son. I will beat you back to camp, screw your girl, kick your dog and drink all your beer by the time you get your slow ass 250 back to camp.

I guess I did kinda chop your statement. Sorry 'bout that.

That is some funny ass shit right there! You just got owned, banshee~! At least lie to us and say you were just joking!

If you lose to a Baja, you get your Banshee reposessed.

Got a pic of her?

I hate smokers. I also hate non-smokers. It sucks that I have no horse in this race. I think I have been involved in every other argument on here. Please continue. Very entertaining. Almost as fun as a lactating chick that needs a boob masage.

If you see a ranger, head for zee hillz. They won't follow you up top. If they pass through camp, you are screwed.

Two weeks after Newyear's day. Kiddies are back in school, and the knuckleheads are out of time off from work. Temps are perfect, sand has recovered.

Im' sorry I hurt your feelings ohfivebanshee. I need to remember that there are sensitive people in here. How much does your girlfriend weigh?

Right on. The cyls that I had problems with were cast. Im not doggin the cubs. I wouldn't mind a pair (not decked, of course!) myself. Have you ever tried to get one builder to fix or repair another builder's stuff? Talk about a headache. Am I rigt to assume that the pistons in this set up will be above the cyl at tdc? Does anyone know what the sulfer content of avgas or racing fuel is? I am sure that the oil coompanys have fixed this problem, but I still would like to know. I had a Beemer that had nykasil problems (compression issues,or so I was told by a mechanic)because of the high sulfer in U.S.gasoline. For $900? That changes my mind a bit. I would think they would be WAY more than that. Whats the OTD- set up -ready to ride price?

now if we could only ban 10 speed bikes.....

Too many mormons.

If the complete cost of this mod is $1000, I would be very suprised. I am basing my arguement on new stock for stock banshee /450. You are gonna spend more on the banshee to get it to 450 woods/trails/mx performance than just getting the 450 in the first place. My credentials are none of your concern.

1. I have personally had cylinders that weeped and a set that couldn't hold compression because of a bad casting. Sometimes stuff gets damaged in production. When that happens, you send them back. Any reputable manufacturer will make it right if you haven't boogered the merchandise. Yes, even billet aluminum can crack or have some other flaw. I'm sure anyone in the QC room of a machine shop could tell you many stories about damaged goods. 2. You will need one-off custom head modifications done. You snag a ring or melt a hole in a piston, you need another CUSTOM head. I guess you have only one place to turn to. Better hope he doesn't go out of busness. 3. I didn't even start this thread. I didn't quote anyone on ps. If you even attempt to argue or step out of line over there, you are done. Builders have an iron fist over ps. That is what sucks about it. 4. Why you gotta tow dans or toms or billy bobs or anyone else's rope for them? Say you buy what he is sellin' and leave it at that. Quit shittin' on the BHQ. Every time another punk ass calls me out, I will respond. If you want me to shut up in this thread, quit posting. If ps is so good, go there like the sheep that you are.

You are an idot, son. Why the hell can't I disagree with Dan? Being skeptical of this makes me a "prick"? Why is it so hard to imagine that some people disagree with this dan fella that you worship as if he WAS an all knowing god? Does this mother f-er walk on water??? I suspect you have either bought somthing from him that you were told was the "best", or you don't like people disagreeing with your boyfriend. You also whine like a little sissy. If you don't have points to add to the thread, why make us suffer reading through your crying. If all you can say is "well put cool guy" why don't you just jerk down his pants, open your mouth real wide, and accept what you are so willing to recieve from his apple bag. Have the grit to tell me with logical points why I'm wrong. Change my point of view with facts if you know so much. You guys say that I have a know it all attitude because I don't happen to agree with the builder of the moment? Get real. Detuning makes as much sense dollar wise as spending $80000 on a WRX to get it to the performance level of a Viper, of which cost $80000 as well. You would spend alot of dough on your banshee engine to get it to compete with 4 stroke mx quads in the technical trails. I said by the time you built a Banshee that could out-tree a 450 all day long, you could have just bought the 450, and rode trails. NO, I don't consider the 450 to be a viper. I just think stock for stock, it's a better bike in the woods. Still wanna know the cost to rebuild plated cyls.

I really get tired of hearing Planet Sand testimonials on here. If I wanted a Planet Sand indorsement of dan, I would post there. Don't threaten me or anyone else with being banned from another site because of what was posted here. Thats just stupid on your part. Keep your reliability cool-aid to yourself until you can prove 3 seasons of hard riding and no problems on multiple engines. Decking .050 won't affect any other aspect of the engine?? Remind me to stay away from whatever you are selling. Let's say you have a workmanship flaw like a jacket crack or a loose sleeve. You can return them. You can't if you decked them and then found the problem. And what is the great benny to a chrome bore??? Seems that would make for an expensive rebuild if you had problems. And last I checked, twin carbed two stroke engines can be a pain to keep properly jetted at all times. This is one of the biggest causes of two stroke failure. You can plate it with kriptonite if you want, if your too lean or rich, your gonna have problems. If BHQ is so bad, why are you getting emails about it? Furthermore, why did you feel the need to respond to "childish bitching" as you call it. It's because a few people here have open minds and speak their piece without being worried about what the "builders" think. Try THAT on ps.

Thata cool. Nothing wrong with going against the grain. For me, I see a destination. If I am trying to get to viper level performance and I have $80,000 to spend, I won't be going to the subaru dealer. Because what I will have in the end is a subaru. It may be all jacked up, but a rose by any other name... For $80,000, I for damn sure want somthing WORTH $80,000. I'll take a Viper anyday over any WRX you could put together for the same money. Just because you spend the cash, that doesn't mean you have somthing thats WORTH what you spend. If that means I am a "sellout", oh well. I'll be able to get most of my 80 back for my next toy, while you are true, but sitting in a subaru that you can't sell. As for the banshee, it's gonna take alot more than raising ports to be a great all around technical trailbike. You have to admit this point. One things for sure, good electricians are hard to find. Wanna come to Az and pull a house for me? I pay cash.....

Take a hypodermic needle and inject rubbing alcohol into the foam. It will break down the foam, making it softer. Do a little at a time so you don't get it too soft. I do this on stiff snowboard boots in the foam areas that give my feet blisters. I suppose it would work for you, too. That relavent enough for you? Didn't you post a while back about your sore thumb?

I've seen stock tanks that people pumped up with compressed air to "pop" the tank out in order for it to hold more fuel. I'm not sure how much volume you would gain. Maybe someone has a bit more info on this.....

Take the tors control box and toss it in the trash. Once thats gone, you should have no overide functioning anywhere. Try not to cut wires, as you might cut the wrong one. As for the on-off and key, you might want to put them back on and see if that starts your bike.

Cool. To each their own. Make a WRX hang with a Viper? That is my point. You would spend more on the WRX than what it would cost just to buy the Viper in the first place. Will the completed set up and mod cost less than $2000? If it is being offered complete for $800, right on. I bet if you put the same money(starting with a stock bike) that the complete decked-cub setup costs into a good mx port and and suspention/chassis upgrade, you would come out on top with the latter. If you have a crazy motor in your frame, thats great. I'm all for it. But I'm sure you know exactly what you have and how it works. Alot of people on here aren't even aware of how a two stroke operates. But if they can't ride and think they can drop this engine in and spoon-feed rocks and mud to 450s all day long, they have another thing coming.

Read my previous posts for the reasons why I question the mod. I guess because of the duner in me, and from my love of the Banshee, and from my understanding of what a Banshee is, and is not, slowing it down seems a little "ludicrous". After you are all finished with such an engine mod, you now need to address the chassis/suspention to make the banshee a trail king. A 450 still will be hard to beat on technical trails. I'm sure what he is doing can be done, I just question the way he is going about it. After all, this IS a place to examine such a mod and air out concerns and discuss different points of view. Go ahead and buy one. Let us know how it runs.

I don't doubt Dan's abilitys regarding porting. Hired help is another story. If Dan has figured out a way to port, mill, fabricate,and experiment as well as run a busness and website and keep the lights on all by himself, he truly deserves credit. I really have a hard time believing it, because I have done a few of the above mentioned things. They take alot of time if you are doing it right. ALOT. If he is a one man band, HATS OFF. I do doubt the logic of grinding off the bottom of a pricy set of jugs in order for someone to ride trails with. I am sure people will buy them. If the are happy, great.

Probably like a gummy bear.