Hockey390

ya, but now I gotta get the pistons in the jugs...how in the hell do I get them in?

there is alot...so i syphoned most, but now I went to put the jugs back on... And seeing how i've never done it, how in the world do i get the pistons to go in?? those 2 little circle clip things (rings?) are expanded and cant get them to fit... I'm sure there is an easy way, i just dont know it

I removed the top end, has gas in the pipes, and gas in the crank.. How do i get it out??? Is there a drain plug, or do I have to keep syphoning..

The reason the compression test was crap is because I got a cheapo tester... The final result was apprx 110-120 on both. this was with a GOOD tester from a shop (one that screws in) mine was the little rubber plug thing. As for the gas/oil/whatever it is... I poured it out of the pipes... i then put it all back on and tried to kick.. it SOUNDED alot better (notice in my posts ive talked about how it doesnt sound right) However it wouldnt fire.. I didnt try getting the fuel out of the crank case (there is alot) because I dont know how to get it all.. I was able to syphon out most of it, but I want it all out.. I am on a timely schedule today, so i need to move fast to get this together try it, if it doesnt work back apart, and take it to the shop before 3 PM est, its 9:15 am now how can I get the excess fuel out? Any tips???

how much am i looking at... The shop said $80 for both jugs to bore it... Then again I could call and ask..

since I have my jugs off and I'm going up a bore, what do you all suggest i do.. whats the difference between porting, and boring? What about polishing, what will give me what i need (to go up a bore) and give me performance? What is the cheapest way? what is the most expensive? give me some ideas to throw around... taking the jugs in tomarrow to have the work done.

i would sure hope no one is riding up behind you....if so you need to worry about more then your oil.

hockey390.....or gunzrtoyz (only use gunzrtoyz)

if you havent seen it... take a look http://www.bansheehq.com/forums/index.php?...t=0#entry215307 I took the pipes off and out came about 1/2 gallon of blackened gas from each pipe... (my guess is black from all the fumes) Top end is off, now i gotta take the pistons off... Can't figure it out. Here is a picture of my jugs, tell me what you think.. By running my finger over that "color change" you see, there is absolutly no grove or ridge...feels totally flat, but who knows...the amount it may be off is less then the eye can see Here are what the tops of my pistons look like. There is a number on them.. I think it says A5902 i THINK, maybe A5982, or there could be something before the A...its hard to tell, i scraped off the crap to try and read it, but some just wouldnt come off.. Will post in another topic.. but I need to know how to remove the pistons.

hey, just wanted to start a new topic cause that one has soooo much stuff on it. http://www.bansheehq.com/forums/index.php?...opic=28553&st=0 that was it... Just pulled the pipes off, and I got a suprise... APPRX. 1/2 gallon of came out of each pipe.. EACH PIPE here are pics.... I think that is my problem. Compression wise, maybe still low...who knows, but I'm airing them out, here are pics.. thats the floor....took one off and went to set it down...ALL OVER! this is the bucket from half of one... nother of the floor... Think this is why I have spark, gas, and no spark??? ***EDIT*** sorry, meant spark, gas, and no fire...

Never seen the 4 nutts, I will probably know what they are as soon as I remove the head, but where are they located? Top, sides, bottom..? As far as what you just said, I'm assuming you meant pipes when you said bikes, but confirm that in case there is another piece I have to remove.. ***EDIT*** Are the Wiseco piston kits on ebay any good? I dont want to buy some refurbished shit, or get them and not have something good... I believe it was boonman that mentioned something about seals or gaskets... What do I need to make sure I get with it? here is a link of one that is 20 over, I dont know if thats what I'm going to (gotta check what its at now) but pretend it is, is this right?? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...7902637716&rd=1 ***EDIT AGAIN*** Also do I want to go .010 over what I have.. or go up .020 ??

and also, any tips for removing the jugs? I've never done it before... Kinda scared! In fact, I have no idea how... Probably thinking take off the head, and do they just pull up??? Who knows... not I One last thing, what color should I paint them =)

How do I figure if the stator is good or bad??

its not when people post things i havent tried, its when people start saying try removing the tors, or when someone says "it ran fine before you did this, so remove it" when if they read starting from the beginning of the post, it will say many times the TORS are gone, and that it ran one day and quit the next. I wouldnt like to be an ass to anyone on here. I have gained more then I could ever imagine from this site. But sometimes people post stuff that has already been done, or couldnt have been done, and this they could of known by reading instead of posting. as for the offer on testing a new CDI, the mechanic (not saying he is right) said if I have spark, the CDI is good. I wanted to see if there was any way to quick fix it because this weekend I really wanted to ride. that is behind me now, and I'm ripping the top end off tonight, and having it bored tomarrow. They of course wanted to charge $400 labor, and $275 for pistons and rings.. $80 for the bore, so i said ya....ok... and took it home, saved the 400 labor, and will order the proper pistons tomarrow after they measure it to see what size I need. Sorry for getting grouchy, just a bad week. But please read a little before you post..

I'm still confused as to why everyone posts these comments before clearly reading what has been writen. Listen one last time. this is the steps... this will be as CLEAR as can be... (keep in mind the order, that is important) 87 banshee. Ran, but lost spark sometimes, caused by TORS. Installed TORS removal kit on STOCK carbs. (also removed all TORS related items) Started on 2nd kick (MONDAY 5/11) Wouldnt start. Had spark, and fuel. (TUESDAY 5/12) Ordered Trinty carb setup. Installed trinty carb steup. Wont start. It has spark (not sure if its timed right) Fuel, and exhaust. Checked compression with a cheap gauge, got 110 on each. TODAY Taking to mechanic at 3:00 PM, I will then find out what it NEEDS to run. FRIDAY Going up north for wedding, (want to) ride on Saturday & Sunday. NEXT WEEK Going to rebuild top end with everything it needs. EX. Pistons, bore it 20 over, new seals.. The works. Please no more posts telling me to remove the carbs, or telling me to act on it instead of just listen... I'm not trying to be an ass, but I do get annoyed when someone mentions something ive already done, and then I tell everyone I've done it, and then the same thing gets repeated.. Hopefully this will clear any questions up, because people tend to read the last post then reply.. Please read the whole thread before posting.

I was very happy with both of those.. I put them on, ran fine.. Got a TORS removal kit, did that.. Started 2nd kick after I did that mod. the NEXT DAY (key factor) it wouldnt start... Since then I've installed a Trinity 2 into 1 carb setup, with the 35 mm carb. today I am taking her to a mechanic to let me know exactly what is wrong, and exactly what I need to do to fix her. When I say sell her, I dont mean I'm getting out of Banshee's, I love them too much to quit. I will be purchasing a 2000 or up, probably stock, and swap out my after market parts. Chances are I will get it fixed, but shee is an 87. When I first got it and started thinking of "modding" I told myself I didnt want to teach an old dog new tricks. Unfortunatly I didnt have the money to spend on a newer one, so I just said screw it and went on.. Now $2,000 later, shee isnt doing well, and I think it wouldnt be smart to keep throwing money into it. I dont make enough money to do that, I will just take a loan and buy a 2000 or up, and be able to ride. Keep in mind, I want reliable.... If I can only ride every other weekend, when that weekend comes, I NEED to have a shee that will start, no prob. ***EDIT*** I am in no way saying Id ont need the rebuild. It will happen.. What i'm trying to do is get a quick fix so I can ride this weekend... Then after this weekend she is gonna get the work. BUT, after the work, im parting out (unless i decide otherwise) A strong running engine will get me more money then a broken one.. SO, either way, selling or not, I am doing the work, but I want to ride this weekend.. And doing the top end rebuild isnt ideal for the timeline im on. I'm sure you all understand that.. Whok nows, maybe I can get new rings and be done with it, then rebuild it next week. Key factor here is I want to ride this weekend.. Plain and simple.

people, I DONT HAvE TORS!

well, its time I move on from my 87... I am looking for a banshee that is year 2000 or up. must be in excellent condition. dont want anything that needs something fixed, replaced, etc.. I am located in Saginaw Michigan, so I would like it to be FAIRLY close.. I have contacts in traverse city, so if there is soemthing up there that would be very convenient, less then here in saginaw of course, but thats 2nd best. if you have one either AIM me at gunzrtoyz, or PM, or email me.. [email protected]

yes....... Keep this in mind.. It ran FINE with everything it has on it now.. NOTHING has changed.. it ran good, it ran strong.. started 2nd kick. The only difference is it started monday, tuesday it wouldnt. now its the next week and i still havnet figured it out.. All i know is that i have spark, fuel, and my compression is 100-110 on both

where do you get the idea i havent ran it in a year? If you read the post, I started it after I installed the TORS removal kit.. ran fine, shut it off...tried to start the next day and it was dead.

Ok, I've decided its the end of her life.... I've put way too much money into her and I'm not seeing anything from it. I will be parting her out soon, so if you need anything let me know.. I will write down who wants what.. probably be starting to sell it all next week. If you or anyone you know has a banshee for sale in michigan, get ahold of me via AIM (gunzrtoyz) or PM, email, or call me. 989-737-1801 Thanks.

ya, but i have spark... and a solid spark at that. my compression is about 110 on both.

when i said not having problems, i just meant grasping the concept of having to do the work. What do I look up in the phone book to find someone to do it???????? I'm gonna rip the top end off tonight and hopefully have it done thursday, maybe i can get her up and running in 3 days?!?!?! Oh, and what should the stock width be... like 64mm??

when i said not having problems, i just meant grasping the concept of having to do the work. What do I look up in the phone book to find someone to do it???????? I'm gonna rip the top end off tonight and hopefully have it done thursday, maybe i can get her up and running in 3 days?!?!?!

Ya, UPS is for larger things.. USPS goes by just weight. SO if its light, go that way.