TeamRealtreeHD Posted June 24, 2008 Report Posted June 24, 2008 (edited) I want to get one here shortly... but I want to keep the same mods I have and I am not looking to install a new crank. I am just looking to gain more power. I was really considering just sending my stock jugs to Kevin Herr, but I really would like to get the cheetah cylinders. Not really sure what my bike is pushing out right now, but what would be the difference if I went with my stock cylinders ported by Kevin and a rebuild... or if I went with lets say the cheetah cub that uses all the stock components? I am really pulling my hair out trying to decide. I have never seen a cheetah cub run but I am reading good reviews. On the other hand, I am also reading good reviews about Kevin Herr's porting. Money wise, I would be looking at $600 to get a port, timing plate and rebuild off Kevin. That includes shipping. Then you double that for the Cheetah cylinders with porting and ready to run. What should I do? I am not looking to run this bike on the track... but the cheetah cub is really calling my name loudly here. I just don't want to change pipes or carb setup/intake. I want to keep it the same. And would really like to know what would be the best bang for the buck keeping this setup. Edited June 24, 2008 by TeamRealtreeHD Quote
okbeast Posted June 24, 2008 Report Posted June 24, 2008 Cubs are drag motors. W/ a 2-1 carb you're not wanting a drag bike. Send your stockers to Kevin. What kind of riding do you do? Use the search too, it has alot of info on this. Quote
TeamRealtreeHD Posted June 24, 2008 Author Report Posted June 24, 2008 I hillclimb alot, and basically ride the bike like you would in the dunes. I just wasn't sure if it was worth the extra money for that cylinder over my stock one going to Kevin. I am looking to gain some power... and wasn't sure if getting the cheetah and porting that would be worth it. I was leaning towards the stock jugs going to Kevin when I first decided to do this motor work project. What would I be looking to gain off a dune port, +4 timing and say .020 over from Kevin? Quote
okbeast Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 I'd say probably 65-70hp with the mods you have, not sure how it would react to the 2-1 carb setup though. Email kevin with any questions, he's great about answering anything i had. Quote
Bansh-eman Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 just skimming the surface of this post, your riding style would not be well suited with a cub. You would be better off keeping your stock jugs and having a dune port put n them. A cub is WOT racing. there is no bottom end like you would want to have. Quote
shee4speed Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 Send the jugs to Kevin.you wont be dissapointed! I'm waiting for this thread to turn into one of those large signature deals. LOL Quote
Animalman294 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 I don't know I do all kinds of crap with mine and I like how it runs, WOT on the dunes or in the gravel pits either way I have a blast and have plenty of power on tap for the straight-aways.............. :biggrin: Quote
dajogejr Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 You only needs cubs cleaned up, they make a lot of power out of the box. But for your needs and setup, send your stockers out... Quote
00tbanshee Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 send your stockers to kev.that will be enough for the type of riding you do Quote
Hilarious Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 i would get go ahead and get the cub cylinders. :thumbsup: Quote
Tedder Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 We drag 1/4 mile asphalt Banshee's. The Cubs are DRAG ported right out of the box. The power band comes on like a light switch at just over 7000 rpm and they pull HARD but low and midrange isn't impressive. They're a great strip motor but I wouldn't even consider a cub for trail. You'd be WAY better off with a lower, wider powerband. A "peaky" high rpm motor on the trails is not a fun bike to ride..... Quote
jesse1004 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 I would definately stick with either a bike to go fast with or a bike to ride trails and dunes with. my banshee now ive dumped way too much money in trying to make a trail bike that i could still drag race with....it really doesn't work. So for a trail bike i would port the stockers but if you really wanted to do some serious drag racing the cheetah/cub, but you'll have to change alot of your other mods. Quote
TeamRealtreeHD Posted June 25, 2008 Author Report Posted June 25, 2008 Well guys, I decided that I am going to do the stock jugs. Talked with Kevin and he is going to do a hot hillshooting dune port, also hone and bore the jugs, and I am going to switch to 18 cc domes. He is going to send me back an advanced timing plate +6, a set of clutch springs and a pancake bearing saver. Told me I should jump up another 20-25 horses. That is exactly what I am looking for. Hopefully start tearing this thing down shortly. Thanks everyone for the advice! Quote
dajogejr Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 Not only will you save some money, get the HP you want...but you'll also have a more "rideable" motor as well. Quote
spurdy Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Kevin is a top notch guy and knows his shit. You wont be disappointed with his port work on a stock cylinder, not to mention his customer service as well as support after the sale. Can't say enough good stuff about the guy. Still tuning the 4 mil he ported for me and working toward 75-80 hp. Can't go wrong with HJR! SP Quote
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