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I sent him a message and ask if he was serious or if it was some kind of joke

I have a black rhino programmer and a drd ignition box for a 700 rhino. It came off my 098 rhino that only has 85 hours on it so it has very little use. If you have a stock rhino you will love this thing. It comes with all the paper work for installing it also. May trade for banshee parts. 200.00 shipped.

I have no idea what you are talking about? I know nothing about alky??????

That was a joke Snop. It is not a proto type anything just messing around with you.

You guys all better hope I dont get this proto type serval tuned right or you are all in trouble.

LOL Snop now you are looking for diffenances in the bikes becasue from that graph the bike Andy dynoed I would say that bike has way more usable power than any of the dyno runs you made which from the runs we made with my bike is just what I found with going to bigger carbs. The power started coming on way sooner than with the little carbs on it.

I need to call Cameron and see if he will email me the last dyno session we did with my stock ported cylinders. While they didnt make the number on top you did with this motor I am pretty sure I started making power at the same point and about the same curve with my 34 mill carbs and my T5's just had about 7 hp less on the top side. If thats the case adn I know I know cant compare dyno's not saying that but if your unloaded dyno is what we are going to go off of here then if I can make close to the same numbers with stock ported cylinders with t5's then that would lead us to believe you can make much better numbers with this cub and still pull hard off the bottom. I know the little details are what work in the real world but I can also tell much more out in the real world what my bike is doing that I can in a controlled enviroment on a dyno!!!

Not to add to the fire but I probably will lol. People talk all the time about usable horse power and most of us that are here in OR and WA are not full time drag racers. We love tree shots and hill climbs and we drag race about 15% of the time if that. So that being said if you can take a cub or a serval and make 80 plus hp and still have it start making power at a low rpm then you have a motor that works perfect for the kind of riding we like to do here. You port stock cylinders to make that kind of power and most of the time they are going to be really lacking on the bottom end and that is no fun for the kind of riding we are looking to do. That is the reason lots of people are going to either a serval or like myself playing with a regular cub to try to get good but not amazing hp numbers out of them but still keep as much low end power as we possibly can. The whole stock carb versus larger carb thing is funny to me becasue I have played with this also and I have had my own bike on Camerons dyno and pulled the stock carbs off and put larger ones on it and the results were just what he told me they would be. The hp numbers did not go up at all with larger carbs but I did start making power at a little lower rpm which made it a better setup for my kind of riding. The same goes with pipes. Running the pipe that works best for your kind of riding is what really matter unless you just want to see who can post the most hp on a dyno chart. That is one reason I always give Snop shit about saying T-5 pipes are junk. They are not junk and we all know that just becasue I dont like cpi pipes or pro circuits does not make them junk just means they are not the pipe I would run if I had a choice. In the end the dyno numbers really do not matter to me I like to see the numbers just like the next guy does and while I build my own motors and do all my own work I am not as into the details as a lot of the guys are on here but more about how I like the bike when I am riding it. ( I better clarify here Redline does all my porting and bore work) Dont want to catch shit for trying to take credit where I dont deserve it. You can prove to me that your pipe will make more hp on the dyno and I really dont care if I pull down in a tree shot with one pipe then go try another pipe and like the way one come out of the hole better than the other one then that is the pipe I am going to run no matter what your dyno number says. That being said I see where 05 is going with his motor and I totally understand it the only thing I had a problem with here is Snop is so anal about the details and so into the small numbers and talking about those numbers then he posts a dyno chart that most guys dont understand then starts catching shit about it. Just my thoughts on this one.

LOL good deal because I am 6'4" 230 so we are about the same size.

05 please understand I am not knocking you bike at all I am sure it runs very well and pulls hard I was just pointing why lots of people are going to question the numbers. I look forward to running them side by side just to see how they pull if for no other reason. Just keep in mind I am kind of a fat ass so if you weigh like 150 it is not a fair race lol. I am bolting on a 4 mill cub that has been decked down to lower the port timing on it and it has been cleaned up a little but not much at all and I have 34 pj carbs v force 3 reeds and the exhuast is still up for debate. I have snop's favorite pipes right now T-5'S but will be bringing at least one other set of pipes to see how it runs. I like dyno numbers and I will run it on the dyno but care much more about how I like riding it which I am sure you understand.

I hope this bike will be on the HQ ride next month Snop. I know what you are trying to show here but you are showing guys dyno numbers that 99% of the guys on here dont understand. It is not about comparing one dyno to another it is more that people are wanting to see what kind of number they are gettting out of these new cylinders. The graph looks nice and smooth and I would really like to pull my 421 I am building up next to it and see how the 2 of them run out. Not saying one bad thing about the bike it looks good just think there is much more to be had there than what the numbers are showing. Just my .02

I have several stock shifters laying around shoot me a pm if you still need one.

I have saw this happen before on a bike a friend of mine bought and it scared one of the trans shaft bad enough it didnt want to roll free so when it was in netural it still wants to move. Just so you know you dont need to tear the whole motor apart you can turn it upside down and pull the bottom half of the case off and pull the tranny out that way.

Yes he does build some fast shit and yes he does know about the ride. He may make it for a day but that weekend is his sons birthday so he cant miss that.

You could grind the weld down a little and it would probably be fine but like n2o said I would be sticking it somewhere that would make someone really unhappy. There is no reason to get a crank like that. Shit should show up ready to drop in and go.

LOL I was going to say something about his address being on there but I figured I should leave that alone.

What the hell you got to be such a downer for dude??? He was happy he had got this done and when your point was proven to be wrong you had to find something else to bitch about? Like your mommy said if you cant say something nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With your setup and being at 400 feet you should be up around the 310 to 330 range so if it running fat with 290's in it you have got something else going on.

Like starwriter said I do live in battle ground and there are some deals on CL up in this area right now and I also know a couple of guys that are in salem that are on here who could help you find a good deal. My question would be since you are 13 are your parents up on this deal??? Just would like to make sure before one of us gives you help your parents are not ok with.

Its all about being a winner and I am a winner

It totally depends on the riding you do like Jay said. I went to Glamis and rode with Jay and have never ran anything but haulers and love them here in Oregon but if I was going to ride at Glamis again I would take a set of V-paddles for sure. Geckos Sucks donkey balls in my opinion. But thats just me

HAHAHAHA this is awesome I figured this would get a good response but not this good. Funny shit man. I am loving the boob pictures 4stroke.

What the hell is it with people???????? I really think lots of people are on here just to see how high they can get there post count! The little thing that shows today top posters has just made it worse I think. Why the hell do some people feel the need to comment on every post on the site? Posting on a presons thread and saying I dont know but I am sure someone will chime in that does. Really why the hell waste the space??? I love how some people one week are asking how do I jet my carbs and the next week are telling some new guy how to do it. This site is not to prove how cool you are by getting up to 6,000 posts it is about having a good time with good guys and helping each other out. Just becasue you are in the top 3 posters every day does not mean you are cool just in case you were not aware of that. Ok off my soap box now and feel all better.

Time is getting close for this ride boys. We have any idea of a head count on how many guys are going to be there? There will be 3 in my group it sounds like. I am in spot 56