I live in Kansas and we are supposed to title our bikes here but its not enforced so alot of times you wont get a title. I have never been questioned about by Banshee by anybody. I have been to Idaho, Oklahoma, Kansas (of course), and I'm going to Colorado for this weekend and its never been questioned. I am going through this right now on another bike that I am buying that has no title. The best thing to do is just get a bill of sale with your name and his name and the VIN on it(even if you have to scratch the pc off in order to get it). Both of you sign and date it. This way, if you ever have a problem you can go back to that bill of sale and say this is the guy I got it from. I know he is your friend but you have to cover your ass. More than likely you will have no problems at all. The guy I bought my Banshee from has the title for it but it has never been titled. BTW - if you decide to dump those frames, let me know, I would be more than happy to "pay you for the shipping" and "dump them for you". :baseball_shifty: :biggrin: