Remington 11-87's are very good guns but are very heavy for what they are. Stay away from mono-chokes on anything, screw-in chokes are the way to go. The best value is always found in a used gun. If you want to buy new, then get a pair of Remington 870 Express's from Walmart. You cant go wrong with them, they come in 12 and 20, 28,26,24 inchbarrels, can't break them, and they're light.