as much as youd like to disagree with nightrider, i also have a CR-500, and theres no way in hell my shee will beat it, not in the street, dirt, sand or up any hill, i guess no one reading this thread has ever seen a CR-5 shoot comp hill, if i was on my CR id have givin him a head start....... im gonna go head and roll my pants up cause the shit's gettin deep......