zach45 Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 just build it man.. i have a supercharger for a 5.0 if u wanna buy it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaNsHeeJuNkEy Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 do some search's there are efi kit's for banshee's and you can also buy turbo kits that ppl haev taken off there banshee once and a while on ebay. i was going to do it to mine but was not worth it to me. just going to do a 4 or 6 mil later on down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopczynski Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 A supercharger is an easier and better idea than a turbo. I know how I would do it, but its hard for me to show it. I would basically copy this rotary valve drive design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawiking Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 i saw on kawirider a guy put a harley supercharger on his v-force........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE358BANSH Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 I think if you calculate the torque required to drive a reasonably sized supercharger, then you wouldn't be so excited. :geek: Would have to agree with you on that one. We just built a motor and the 14-71 LittleField blower consumes almost 600 hp pumping loss.<---------That, is why I like turbos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350BANSHEE350 Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 you will never have the torque output from a shee motor to power a big enough supercharger to create more power .. you could easily lose power and reliaility. could you imagine the rad youd need just to cool it down. you choose the hard way we choose the simple way. imply because we know what can be and cant be done supercharging a shee isnt possible. you can eqiupt one but wtf im not going into detail now if you want it turboed then its possible .. it uses exhaust preasure not torque . you would need to fiure ou a good way to equalize the jetting for everything 1000rpm which is a hard task or fuel inject it say 15000 dollars and drop 5 on a cub and cpi or shearers play with the gearing and be st to go with whats simple and POSSIBLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawarriorman Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Do I call you an exaggerator here, sheep, call him a liar, or call him an idiot for spending more money putting that shit into a quad frame then guys who have full-on drag turbo busas with custom frames who put out more power by far? Wait...lemme guess, he started out with a brand new Busa and a brand new Banshee, then had some $300/hour "supertuner" turn every bolt for him. I love all of the people who whine about "Oh! Too much time! Too much money!". Thank god that not everyone thinks that way or we'd still have only steam engines, and 4-cylinders that only put out 88 h.p.. Before you start spouting off at the mouth like a fucking moron, why don't you at least figure out who I was talking about. The guy I am talking about IS the tuner building it. It is in a full on custom drag frame and I very highly doubt that anyone is making more than the 500+ that the bike Im talking about is. http://www.fireball-racing.com/Videos.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcoholbanshee Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 (edited) The bike warrior is talking about would cost all of 50g's to build. As far as the supercharged or turbo......I would go turbo, simply because of the persitic loss of power with the supercharger. I know a guy with a 500 sabertooth that tried to run it with a supercharger and simply gave up due to not being able to make it run anywheres near consistently . The same goes for the guy I know with a supercharged 809 mach z, just far to many bugs to work out to make the project feasable. These are both people that are way better than average tuners and builders. And they were on drag vehicles designed to go short distances. How well will this work on a vehicle that will be disigned to go longer distances, reliably???? Electronic fuel injection would be your only hope with either the turbo or supercharger!!!! Good luck, I am not knocking your project. I just have a pretty good idea how it will end up!!!!! Edited January 4, 2008 by alcoholbanshee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetshee Posted January 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 yeh i think i go the turbo way,but as i understand it you do not "have" to have efi.realise that the blower isnt the best idea,it just slapped me in the face when i came across a supercharged bike on the net,i dont think you can get a charger that spins up enough anyway,im told that most are only spinning around 8000rpm otherwise the veins expand and hit on the other spinny bit and will self destruct due to the tight tollerence of around 0.004. thanks everyone for the input,seeyaz............. dawarriorman;- thats a bit harsh words there,chill out man. its just a topic. we can all speak nicly like adults ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSSA Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Before you start spouting off at the mouth like a fucking moron, why don't you at least figure out who I was talking about. The guy I am talking about IS the tuner building it. It is in a full on custom drag frame and I very highly doubt that anyone is making more than the 500+ that the bike Im talking about is. http://www.fireball-racing.com/Videos.htm Your point? If he's building it himself, and is in the industry, I call BS even more on the $50K price tag. Lemme guess, he gold-plated the frame? Being in the performance industry, I see high-baller $ quotes thrown around way to much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetshee Posted January 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 exactly.my shee sets me back $30,000 if i paid someone to do it for me,but i did it all (apart from cylinders n crank), so it was considerably less. :biggrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davritt2000 Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 1 for sale http://www.planetsand.com/forums/ubbthread...6624#Post786624 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawarriorman Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Your point? If he's building it himself, and is in the industry, I call BS even more on the $50K price tag. Lemme guess, he gold-plated the frame? Being in the performance industry, I see high-baller $ quotes thrown around way to much. My point is you had no clue what machine I was talking about, you just figured it couldn't happen because you work "in the performance industry". Just inform yourself before you make comments. Titanium axle, busa motor, turbo, EFI system, shocks, custom drag frame. How much you think he paid just for those parts alone? streetshee - sorry for the hijack. If you really want to do it, then go for it. Somebody has to be that guinea pig that dumps his savings into his dream. Prove us wrong :beer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcardracing Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Guys, it's very feasable to turbo a carbureted 2-stroke and keep it reliable. I have a turboed (carbureted) sled that has been in my family since 94. It has been ridden hard as hell and has only burned down once, only because we were in BFE and tried to top it off with premium instead of avgas. Sure, it will be a lot of trial and error to get it all set up. As for the supercharger, I would say hell no. Too much parasitic loss and way too much work to get it installed let alone tuning it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91tsiawd Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 My point is you had no clue what machine I was talking about, you just figured it couldn't happen because you work "in the performance industry". Just inform yourself before you make comments. Titanium axle, busa motor, turbo, EFI system, shocks, custom drag frame. How much you think he paid just for those parts alone? streetshee - sorry for the hijack. If you really want to do it, then go for it. Somebody has to be that guinea pig that dumps his savings into his dream. Prove us wrong :beer: Retail prices for some of the items; Busa Motor $2300 e-bay plus another $2,000 for a complete build up he better be able to get pistons, rods, crank, valves etc for that price. Turbo/EFI fall together in a kit with a GT35R sheet metal intake, injectors (Will need to upgrade from the injectors sent in the kit for the 500hp), Bosch 044 Pump, Motec Stand Alone, BOV, wastegate, etc $10K retail. You could peice together this kit for much less Custom frame around $4100 is LSR's price for cromoly He's owns a shop so I assume he is building his own custom frame or has a decent hook up, $80 for factory Busa wiring harness not sure if the Motec uses the factory harness or requires you to make your own Axle: I didn't look that hard but found an Aluminum one (LSR) which ran $900 so lets say $1800 Swingarm: Lets go with a $1000 Shocks: Lets go with $2000 Misc Parts Wheels tires, chain etc : 10,000 So far that adds up to $33,280 with pricing the parts a bit on the high side. No where close to your $50,000. I guess the other + $16,000 was wasted on food and Dyno time, Beer, and paying off idiots to brag about how much he spent. I'll have to go along with DSSA on this one by saying I highly doubt he spent anywhere near $50,000 on a Turbo Busa Banshee build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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