black dallas Posted December 7, 2007 Author Report Posted December 7, 2007 thanks chase for the offer. i followed bigred on the tear down. i guess the put back together should be easy enough. i also assume the clymer will tell me how tight to tighten everything. so i need to be sure on a few things. no one has clarified if i need to tear down first the get it honed and then buy the kit or buy the kit then have it honed. i would think i need to have it honed then i would knw what size pistons to get. right? also do i need gasket sealer? ill need oil and antifreeze . i kinda need to know ahead of time casue the nearest dealer is 40 miles away. thanks again guys i think i can handle it plus my brother has done a few before in the past and he has a big metal shop to do it in. better than my tailgate. Quote
[email protected] Posted December 7, 2007 Report Posted December 7, 2007 thanks chase for the offer. i followed bigred on the tear down. i guess the put back together should be easy enough. i also assume the clymer will tell me how tight to tighten everything. so i need to be sure on a few things. no one has clarified if i need to tear down first the get it honed and then buy the kit or buy the kit then have it honed. i would think i need to have it honed then i would knw what size pistons to get. right? also do i need gasket sealer? ill need oil and antifreeze . i kinda need to know ahead of time casue the nearest dealer is 40 miles away. thanks again guys i think i can handle it plus my brother has done a few before in the past and he has a big metal shop to do it in. better than my tailgate. rip it apart , and send the top end out to a builder on here such as fast , and im preety sure he would send you your cyldiners back ,bored honed bla blab la , with everything you need to complete your project ( ALSO the correct sizes etc. ) I dont use gasket sealer on my top end AT ALL . you will need a special torque rench so you can know how hard to tighten bolts down. I never dealth with f.a.s.t. but man i would not hesitate ! they are reputable . Call jeff at fast , his #'s on here somewhere. Quote
flattrakker Posted December 7, 2007 Report Posted December 7, 2007 not bragging or nothing but im 14 years old and i did my top end myselff. tore it all down.. bought the whole top end kit (wiseco) took my cylinders and pistons to a machine shop.. they match the pistons to the cylinders for tolerances.. got it all backk.. put it all back together.. torqued her all up and a few hours later i was tearing it up.. in all honesty i wouldnt hesitate to do it again myself the next time she goes.. Quote
badassbanshee479 Posted December 7, 2007 Report Posted December 7, 2007 I would buy the top end kit from one of the site sponsors on here, you are gonna pay more for it at the dealer! The right way to do it is to order the pistons first, then send them to the machine shop with the cylinders so the clearances can be set when they bore and hone them. If you dont know of any good machine shops around your area, like chase said, box up the cylinders and send them into F.A.S.T. he has everything you could possibly need to do your top end right at his shop. When you call him he will be able to talk you threw what all is needed to do it right. 785-364-5325 is the number guys name is jeff. Quote
samc Posted December 7, 2007 Report Posted December 7, 2007 get a GOOD set of tools! knock off brands usally mess up the heads of the bolts. craftzman and snapon are very good brands. also when you get everything unbolted, take your cylinders to a mechine shop and get them to mic your cylinders and check your piston to cylinder wall clearance. if you need it bored with new rings they will tell you. good luck man and dont pay 800, thats a waste! need any help just about everyone on the HQ would love to help you out. Quote
2strokespirit Posted December 7, 2007 Report Posted December 7, 2007 I don't want to be the odd one here saying you won't be able to do it yourself, I think almost anyone can rebuild a banshee...... but not everyone is a DIY guy. I have been rebuilding lawnmowers and go karts when I was 12, but what the heck, I liked it!! Some of my friends just cannot even change their sprockets at the age of 30! If they really try I am sure they will get it done, long story short, not everyone is tecnical orientated. My opinion is get a manual, see how its done and then thought it threw or ask someone that has done it before to help you. If you do a clean job and all the tolerances are in spec the top end should last long... $825 is way to much if you want to get it done by someone else, except if it needs resleeving.. Good Luck! Quote
Bansh-eman Posted December 7, 2007 Report Posted December 7, 2007 Dallas, you need to buy your topend kit knowing what size your going to go with, THEN take the pistons with the top end and have them honed or bored depending on what they need. to get the correct tolerances. if you try honing or boring first there is almost zero chance that your going to have to correct tolerances. Quote
brian Posted December 7, 2007 Report Posted December 7, 2007 I would buy the top end kit from one of the site sponsors on here, you are gonna pay more for it at the dealer! The right way to do it is to order the pistons first, then send them to the machine shop with the cylinders so the clearances can be set when they bore and hone them. Guys, I don't think he knows what size bore he currently has. That being said, he can't buy a topend kit first cuz he might buy it too small. He needs to tear the topend apart and send the cylinders to a decent builder who can bore/hone and sell him the right pistons. :yes: As said b4, call Jeff at FAST, or any other builder (PRE, HERR, etc.....) on here and they will get you fixed up right. It'll really suck if you buy a .020 over kit and it is already .030 over. Quote
Bansh-eman Posted December 7, 2007 Report Posted December 7, 2007 if you dont know your bore you need to have them mic'ed, having them honed first then buying a kit will nt get your tolerances set right. your rolling the dice to wether or not it will be correct and the chances favor heavily against you. find out what size bore your at now, then if you do not need to bore it to the next size buy the pistons you need and have the cylinders honed to match the piston so you canget the correct tolernce Quote
black dallas Posted December 8, 2007 Author Report Posted December 8, 2007 ok fellers, this is whats going on. i went and got my shee this morning and it was in pieces at the repair shop. well the mechanic had the top off the motor, pipes off, nuts and bolts in a box. and the heads in a box. SURE HOPE ALL THE PARTS ARE THERE!!! emailed jeff at f.a.s.t. last night and sent him the heads this afternoon. so the good thing was that it was already torn down. my question or worry is with the mtor setting open like that how do i know or how do i make sure nothing got down in the motor. i loaded it up in my truck and stuffed a couple of rags down in the cylinders for the ride home. put it in my brothers shop and now i wait for jeff and his magic. we got good tools so thats not a problem and i feel that with yalls previous support and future also i can do this install. i believe that everything included , honing and pistons gaskets and such is going to run me less than $300 through jeff. $300 ... $825 . thanks guys Quote
Skithis Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 haha I think this is so awesome. Beauty of the internet right here guys. 10 random guys that have never meet helping 1 guy rebuild his quad. I think youll finish just fine. Now its time to pull the cylinders off of the pistons. This is done by simply lifting the cylinders up. It may take a little bit of force. After that step is completed, your going to want to take your cylinders to a shop where they can be micrometered. They need to check your "bore size". When thats all done post back here with that exact measurement and im sure one of these guys will be happy to tell you what size pistons you need. Or Jeff at FAST. Good luck. Quote
Skithis Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 haha I think this is so awesome. Beauty of the internet right here guys. 10 random guys that have never meet helping 1 guy rebuild his quad. I think youll finish just fine. Now its time to pull the cylinders off of the pistons. This is done by simply lifting the cylinders up. It may take a little bit of force. After that step is completed, your going to want to take your cylinders to a shop where they can be micrometered. They need to check your "bore size". When thats all done post back here with that exact measurement and im sure one of these guys will be happy to tell you what size pistons you need. Or Jeff at FAST. Good luck. Be careful of Dirt! make sure none is gonna fall in your cylinders. It wouldnt hurt to spray your cylinders down with WD40. I usually do but it might not be neccessary. Quote
black dallas Posted December 15, 2007 Author Report Posted December 15, 2007 well guys i just got my clymer in. i assume it is mandatory to follow the break in procedures when i get my top end finshed right? this whole project should be interesting.thanks for the help Quote
Skithis Posted December 17, 2007 Report Posted December 17, 2007 well guys i just got my clymer in. i assume it is mandatory to follow the break in procedures when i get my top end finshed right? this whole project should be interesting.thanks for the help Yes it is pretty important. Ive done it with and without and never had problems either way. But id break it in. Quote
TexasBansheeMan Posted December 17, 2007 Report Posted December 17, 2007 Pistons 150 machinging/boring ? 90 a cyl ?????? depends ??? H&H motorsports charges $8 a hole. Tomball TX GREAT WORK!! Quote
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