My Shee is killing me more every day.

[xXBlessedWithDeathXx]

ok. I dont want to make this a long post but i have no choice. i have a 87 banshee, fmf pipes, trinity 2 in 1 carb i think 35mm ,2 1/2 HP degree key, v force 3 reeds, new 60 over bore with wiseco pro light pistons rings , new crank (oem), new bottom end (gears and all), K&N air filter no box

 

I have a problem with plugs. carb is clean and when i have new plugs in its a monster. no bog no crazy smoke, just perfect but after about 20 minutes the right cylinder is fauled . it all starts at top end. after about 15 min it will pop and bog. its only the right side. it would shut off time to time but i pinched the coil wires that have contact to the plug so it has good contact now (thats RICKY STATOR) they were loose. when i shoot up a steep hill if the plug dont faul it will blow white smoke. a lot of smoke. i freaked and shut the bike off quick and once shee cooled down i started it and it was gone. my coolant is good so its not that. my tranny oil level didnt change. i have a 160 main in the carb a dude here runs 165 and his is fine. i went from 170 to 168 to 165 to 160. the right plug is black (all of it) bad carbon. its thick. it kinda looks like it was painted black 10 times and dipped in gas. the left side is not so dark but not wet. my pilot is set all the way down. it goes as far as it could into the carb 5th clip, if its on 4 then 2 plugs go. it started doing this every time i first started, on idle only. maby one plug a day right or left side. it took turnes i guess. then i cleaned the pilot jet. i seen on here that if it has dirt or what ever in that it would act that way but now its bad. the carb is very clean. i love my bike lol. i realy do. and i`m talking in circles i think but i just dont know what to do next. i think i covered everything the best i can. i`m layed off all summer and its killing me. i found a guy on ebay that sells B8ES plugs for .99 all you pay is shipping lol. if you have advice please speak your mind. Thanks

[shee rips]

being the 2 into 1 setup it seems strange that it is only one side having the problem, or was it that it switched from side to side?

what oil do you use? the way you describe the your plugs it sounds like too much and/or the wrong type of oil maybe

[xXBlessedWithDeathXx]

being the 2 into 1 setup it seems strange that it is only one side having the problem, or was it that it switched from side to side?

what oil do you use? the way you describe the your plugs it sounds like too much and/or the wrong type of oil maybe

 

Its only one side thats realy bad and i use Klotz mixed 40 to 1

[91banshee]

how sure are you its not coolant , that thick cloud of white smoke could be antifreeze, when a motor heats up if the head is not sealed it can leak a little, enough to foul and plug and make it look awful

i had one be fine for the first 15 mins of riding then it would bog and blow out white smoke and turn the plugs to gunk , it was the head gasket.even if you check your coolant level it may still look normal .

[xXBlessedWithDeathXx]

how sure are you its not coolant , that thick cloud of white smoke could be antifreeze, when a motor heats up if the head is not sealed it can leak a little, enough to foul and plug and make it look awful

i had one be fine for the first 15 mins of riding then it would bog and blow out white smoke and turn the plugs to gunk , it was the head gasket.even if you check your coolant level it may still look normal .

 

i`ll replace the gaskets as soon as i can and repost what i see and what happens. i`m not sure if i have extra so it may take a wile. i may have to order them but it only blows the white smoke when i go up steep hills. very steep. when the plug fauls and its replaced wile still hot the smoke is gone. the smoke is only on hills but thanks for you posts. ill look it over now.

Edited July 21, 2007 by xXBlessedWithDeathXx

[350BANSHEE350]

i was going to say if its only the right side then it is probably your crank seal but i dont know about the going up hill part

confusing

goodluck

[xXBlessedWithDeathXx]

how sure are you its not coolant , that thick cloud of white smoke could be antifreeze, when a motor heats up if the head is not sealed it can leak a little, enough to foul and plug and make it look awful

i had one be fine for the first 15 mins of riding then it would bog and blow out white smoke and turn the plugs to gunk , it was the head gasket.even if you check your coolant level it may still look normal .

 

ok, i replaced the gasket on the head. new Vitos gasket, never used. it was leaking. on the head you can see where the carbon was only sticking to one side like as if the coolant was washing it away. coolant level was very low, but it now does the same thing. coolant is fine, i looked menny times., sorry for the spelling i`m drunk hahaha. i went threw 3 plugs in about 45 min time. its a new head so its not worped. i`m just lost. i dont get it but when i do i`ll post the problem so yous will know if it happens to you. i did notice that this time it smoked kinda bad on the left side at times. the 3rd plug i put in also lasted about 4 minutes. i hate to say it but if i cant figure it out shee has to go. it would be parted out and i will let you guys know first but i must add, (is a 38mm kenin carb to big for a 2 in one? ) it might be that size, that or a 35.

[KHall]

ok, i replaced the gasket on the head. new Vitos gasket, never used. it was leaking. on the head you can see where the carbon was only sticking to one side like as if the coolant was washing it away. coolant level was very low, but it now does the same thing. coolant is fine, i looked menny times., sorry for the spelling i`m drunk hahaha. i went threw 3 plugs in about 45 min time. its a new head so its not worped. i`m just lost. i dont get it but when i do i`ll post the problem so yous will know if it happens to you. i did notice that this time it smoked kinda bad on the left side at times. the 3rd plug i put in also lasted about 4 minutes. i hate to say it but if i cant figure it out shee has to go. it would be parted out and i will let you guys know first but i must add, (is a 38mm kenin carb to big for a 2 in one? ) it might be that size, that or a 35.

Try dropping your Klotz Down to 32.1 I use Klotz 2 and that is how i mix mine

[ziegman]

Had the same prob as you several months ago. Take your stator cover off and check your pickup coil. The distance between the coil and the 2 notches on the flywheel should be 15-20 thousandths. Check it with a feeler guage.

[xXBlessedWithDeathXx]

Try dropping your Klotz Down to 32.1 I use Klotz 2 and that is how i mix mine

 

32.1 is to rich for me. since i put in the new crank i run at 40.1 or 44.1 this time i used 40.1 seeing i switched to klotz. when i use belray i run 44.

[xXBlessedWithDeathXx]

Had the same prob as you several months ago. Take your stator cover off and check your pickup coil. The distance between the coil and the 2 notches on the flywheel should be 15-20 thousandths. Check it with a feeler guage.

 

whats what i`m talking about. i just had this convo with a friend and thats what we came up with and i`m going to look over my flywheel key. my crank seals are maby 3 weeks old. i didnt look over the oil level since the crank was put in so i will do that too. i`m also going to look over my flywheel key if its still one piece.

[bansheesmoke]

I had a real similar problem you did with fouling plugs.

It would foul them back and forth and in 15 minutes somtimes less.

My problem was a bad stator.

Try testing it with a multitester or swap in a known working one.

[Meat]

do a compression test and report back.

 

and for the record... ricky stators suck !! they once had a good name in the industry, now they don't. ya hear this Ricky ?? stop importing garbage and get back to quality.

[Meat]

32.1 is to rich for me. since i put in the new crank i run at 40.1 or 44.1 this time i used 40.1 seeing i switched to klotz. when i use belray i run 44.

 

 

32:1 will make your engine run leaner than a 40:1 mix. Don't confuse fuel ratios with air\fuel ratios.

[xXBlessedWithDeathXx]

do a compression test and report back.

 

and for the record... ricky stators suck !! they once had a good name in the industry, now they don't. ya hear this Ricky ?? stop importing garbage and get back to quality.

 

i didnt do a compression test , i dont have the tool yet but yes i know i have to. i did notice my tors is half way hooked up. i seen this after i took out the harness off. the box above but on the frame to the left of the cylinder is still hooked up. it shouldnt be. one of the wires for the tors on the carb was cut the second is hanging. my harness is a mess now, i`m taking all that crap of. i used a carb from a lt250r and it was the same shit so its not the carb. the bike ran nice but it just went to shit in a matter of 2 weeks.