yamalube vs. ams oil

[Gargamel]

What do those pints cost? When I used 2R it was about $9 for a quart.

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I get it for $14.98 a gallon at Spokane Yamaha local. It's all I run at 32:1 in all my toys and weedwacker

 

Yamalube 2R is great

 

[Animalman294]

I've been runnin' Redline 32:1 and so far no problems. I was runnin' H1R for a while and thought that I would try the Redline out for a while....

[PUSH THE THROTTLE]

I got a few bottles of the 100 to 1 stuff and I plan to run it 40 to 1.  it's very cheap cheaper than MC1 and cheaper than Yamalube.

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Try the 40:1 and then try 80:1 you won't go back. Amsoil has to pass tests at 300:1 and a local Amsoil rep tells me he has quite a few people that run it at 125:1.

[PUSH THE THROTTLE]

I get it for $14.98 a gallon at Spokane Yamaha local. It's all I run at 32:1 in all my toys and weedwacker 

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That seems awfully cheap, If I could buy it for that I probably wouldn't have switched.

[chronicwatson]

i ve run amsoil in my 94 xlt 600 for the past 3 years and have put 6000 miles on the crank with not one problem its good stuff. but i use maxima in my shee smells really nice to kinda like race gas

[Master of Faster]

You just gotta find what you like and run with it, everybody has their own opinion on oils and they're own stories about how good/bad they are. I have a Vmax-4 snowmobile that has 11,700 miles on it exclusively on Yamalube oil, never been rebuilt top end or bottom, still has same compression as the day it left the factory and never a crank problem.

[dalegoldston]

What I dont understand is why go cheap. If you have 15k in a bike. You will spend 2k on shocks, 450 for a welded and trued crank with hot rods, dump money on chrome and want to skimp on oil or cheap plugs. But to each there own. By the way I run BEL RAY and love it. Later and all have a great Memorial Day stay safe.

[PUSH THE THROTTLE]

What I dont understand is why go cheap. If you have 15k in a bike. You will spend 2k on shocks, 450 for a welded and trued crank with hot rods, dump money on chrome and want to skimp on oil or cheap plugs. But to each there own. By the way I run BEL RAY and love it. Later and all have a great Memorial Day stay safe.

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I run Bel Ray in my tranny. It's not about being cheap it's just an added benefit. I prefer the Amsoil to the 2R. I don't have to worry about using an oil that smells like race gas because my amsoiil is mixed with race gas.

[87_shee]

Ive also used amsoil in all my sleds and the shee, but a buddie of mine told me about lucas semi synthetic and now that ive treid it i will never use anything else..has anyone else tried this stuff?

 

Lucas

[Gargamel]

What I dont understand is why go cheap. If you have 15k in a bike. You will spend 2k on shocks, 450 for a welded and trued crank with hot rods, dump money on chrome and want to skimp on oil or cheap plugs. But to each there own. By the way I run BEL RAY and love it. Later and all have a great Memorial Day stay safe.

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I don't think Yamalube is cheap in quality, I'd use it if it cost more, the price is just a bonus

[Justintoxicated]

Try the 40:1 and then try 80:1 you won't go back. Amsoil has to pass tests at 300:1 and a local Amsoil rep tells me he has quite a few people that run it at 125:1.

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I dunno man, changing the ratio like that really leans your bike out whic is why it may run better that way.

[Master of Faster]

I dunno man, changing the ratio like that really leans  your bike out whic is why it may run better that way.

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From an air/fuel standpoint a higher ratio like 80:1 will actually richen your mixture over 40:1.

[Holyman]

I always ran Yamalube... never had a problem.

I switched to Amsoil Sabre 100:1 and run it at 80:1. I run in the full heat of summer in S L O W trails, I run in the snow at high revvs at -10deg for hours.

I never change jetting and never had a hint of trouble.

I have spoken to people who professionally race sleds and who run the 100:1 Sabre at 200 and 300 to 1 with no negative effects.

As far as I can see it, Amsoil Sabre is one of the few things in the world that is BOTH good AND cheap

[csrmel]

something i havent really got my head around is the idea that there is some benefit to running a 2 stroke lean on oil. whats the point? lets just say for sake of arguement that it doesnt hurt the motor and there is no ill effects.

 

if you take an engine and do a compression test, then add a small dribble of oil down the sparky hole and do another compression test, the engine amlost awalys shows higher compression, because the excess oil helps to seal the rings.

 

this makes sence because my brother in law was on a outboard race team in the late 70's early 80's and when i got my banshee he was talking to me about 2 strokes in general and told me that even in those watercooled marine outboards they found they awalys got more power using a richer mixture of oil. , they would run the mixture all the way down to 16:1 or even 12:1. he said running with that much oil in the gas made for problems like fouled plugs and such but it made the most power. they didnt run that rich if there was to be alot of lower rpm driving or technical turns and such. only on the higher speed courses, because those courses didnt foul plugs as easy.

 

while im not suggesting anyone here go out and run their banshee at 12:1 fuel/oil ratio, i would suggest that 100:1 or 300:1 may not be the best way to make the most power. it sure would keep youre sparkplugs clean that i will admit, but plugs are cheap, a motor is not. nobody ever lost a 2 stroke because they put a little too much oil in their gas (wihtin moderation of course). having a little bit too much oil will foul a plug, maybe add some deposits to the engine, but it isnt gonna cause youre engine to burn out.

 

maybe yamaha had it right when they wrote that they require the use of a 20:1 to 25:1 fuel/oil mixture as stated in the factory banshee user manual.

 

come to think of it, i remember back in the days before 4 stroke motorcross bikes really took off, every 2 stroke would smoke pretty bad at the starting gate, even the amsoil bikes. i doubt they were running at 100:1. they smoked just as bad as anyone else.

[Holyman]

Well let me just throw this out there...

Higher compression needs higher octane otherwise you have ignition problems, overheating, siezure etc.

When you add more oil, you also increase the LEANNESS of of the air FUEL ratio which will often lead to improved horse power.

The amount of oil should be just enough to lubricate properly for your engine. And the fuel jetting should be adjusted to the fuel you use.

Since the oil ratio effects the cumbustability of the fuel, it's best to have as much fuel present to do it's job and not put more oil in there to mess with combustability. In reality, it's best to rely on the quality of fuel to make the power rather than excess oil.