macgillivary Posted September 15, 2005 Report Posted September 15, 2005 ok i changed my tranny fluid and switched brands i went from yamalube to tech2000 85-90 i beleive it was, whatever tech2000 makes, a heavier fluid seems to be what everyone is running on here so i wanted to try it anyways after i changed it i ran the bike for about 10 min, puttin around on the street, checked the fluid, and its like a bubblin fizzy white man its got me freaked out cuz i dont think it should look like that but to feel it, like rub on your fingers, it still feels like oil, no grit in it, and its not hot which bubbling i thought it would of been hot, just warm could there possibly have been some yamalube left and they took a bad reaction with each other? man im freaked help me out guys thanks Quote
02bluemxshee Posted September 15, 2005 Report Posted September 15, 2005 sounds like you got some water in there check your side case oring or water pump seal Quote
macgillivary Posted September 16, 2005 Author Report Posted September 16, 2005 alright thanks ill have to check that out tomorrow heres also what i noticed the bike cooled down, checked it and it looked normal, just like any oil started it back up, its fine looks normal,but then as soon as the bike hits around 160degrees is when the fluid seems to be turning into this white fizzy stuff wonder if this helps in your suggestions, maybe narrow it down a bit more the bottle is still full of antifreeze, have to take a peek in the rad tomorrow too, if its down then i am probably gettin antifreeze in there side case oring i dont know what that is, guessing its the whole clutch cover? or is it the cover with the 3 screws? thanks guys Quote
ssanddemon Posted September 16, 2005 Report Posted September 16, 2005 Gotta be coolant. May as well ditch that bottle, they won't allow the rad to cycle back and forth, they're a catch can only. It will stay full as the radiator empties itself into the trans. Sounds like you got it nailed- it's gotta be the feed tube o-ring (upper middle of clutch cover) or the water pump impeller seal. Either way, that clutch cover is coming off! Quote
Virtualbat Posted September 16, 2005 Report Posted September 16, 2005 do you know if that oil has Detergent in it? might sound dumb but some tranny fluids have a detergent made in them. water in the fluid will change the color all the time nut just when it heats up. sounds to me like it is the fluid. try runnin just plain type -f tranny fluid. or get maxium with clutch saver. good oil just a lil pricey. Quote
macgillivary Posted September 16, 2005 Author Report Posted September 16, 2005 ya thankyou i think what im going to do first is drain it and change back to a light oil that i trust could possibly be something with that oil, seems very strange that when i changed it that this all of a sudden happened, nothing was wrong with the other oil when i took it out im sure ill notice wheni change it too, if it comes out really watery looking i got antifreeze in there will any type F work, ive seen ATF type F, and another brand, just wondering if some have any friction crap in them? Quote
locogato11283 Posted September 16, 2005 Report Posted September 16, 2005 heres an easy check ebfore yo go to the trouble of pullin the clutch cover. fill the coolant all the way up, if its not already and ride it. see if the coolant level in the rad goes down. if it does, then yes you have a leak somewhere. if not, then its something else..when u drained the oil to change it, was there water in it?? i doubt that all of a sudden with this new oil it would have made it leak. if its leaking it would have already been leaking...was there water in the old oil?? Quote
macgillivary Posted September 16, 2005 Author Report Posted September 16, 2005 no not a drop of water in the old oil, it was a nice golden color still which makes me think that it is this kind of the new oil itself, because seriously it is very strange that just from changing oil that a seal would go just like that, im gonna check my coolant level there, and ya try out your idea loco if its the oil itself i highly warn everyone not to use tech2000 85-90 pulling the clutch cover is my last resort, really dont feel like doing that Quote
ellison445 Posted September 16, 2005 Report Posted September 16, 2005 I think you should go back to whatever you was running before. no not a drop of water in the old oil, it was a nice golden color stillwhich makes me think that it is this kind of the new oil itself, because seriously it is very strange that just from changing oil that a seal would go just like that, im gonna check my coolant level there, and ya try out your idea loco if its the oil itself i highly warn everyone not to use tech2000 85-90 pulling the clutch cover is my last resort, really dont feel like doing that 415738[/snapback] Quote
pimpeinkc Posted September 16, 2005 Report Posted September 16, 2005 it might have been bubbled up from it sloshing and circulating, i know my yfz started acting stupid on me, so i pulled the stick and the oil tank was damn near full and all bubbly, so i put it up and rode the shee the rest of the weekend. checked it the next day and it was fine, got home drained it, saw nothing, never had another problem... just my .02 Quote
macgillivary Posted September 16, 2005 Author Report Posted September 16, 2005 well i went and got some ATF type F drained out that tech2000 80-90, sorry i thought it was 85 and not a problem now that stuff was crap man, when i drained it, it looked like it had been in a motor for about 2 years after about 20 min of just getting it warmed up, was all foamy and shitty color looking too note to everybody on here dont use tech2000 80-90, crap oil, walmart special my ass i like the ATF though, seems nice and thin and very clean thanks alot for your guys help Quote
MDS2106 Posted September 16, 2005 Report Posted September 16, 2005 I run the tractor hydralic oil from walmart in my trans. and haven't had one complaint. Seems like the tech2000 gear oil would be a little thick and would make shifting harder than normal Quote
ssanddemon Posted September 16, 2005 Report Posted September 16, 2005 Huh! That's some crappy oil I guess. Sounds like it was foaming up like a bastard. Probably did you a favor by knocking loose a bunch of clutch sediment from the bottom of the case with the bubble action though. I second the tractor oil, it's been working great for me for years. It's cheap so I change it very often, keeps clutch sediment from building up. Heard good things about ATF too, I think whatever you use, just change it after every few rides and the trans stays happy. Quote
macgillivary Posted September 17, 2005 Author Report Posted September 17, 2005 ya i was good to change it often, I wanted to try something different i suggest nobody ever use that tech2000 80-90, it was shit man looked like a big bucket of foamy diarehea when it came out Quote
2twin350s Posted September 17, 2005 Report Posted September 17, 2005 80 90 w is gear oil. way too thick for a quad. all brands foam after circulating. if you check the rear diff fluid in a truck after driving it foams.all gear oils do. but done run them in your bikes. 80 90w is for cars and truck differentals. Quote
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