strongweld Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 I have an old school JD Superior sleeve bike I just picked up, it sat for 15 years since it was last ridden, it was tired so I bored it and opened up the combustion chambers from 19cc to 25cc, when I got it had only 150 psi compression, it should have been well over 200 with such small chambers, with fresh bore and 25cc chambers it is now at 185lbs, a little low but I well weld it up and redo them later. I backed the timing down to 6 degrees from 10. It starts on the first or second kick. I use Sonoco 110 fuel and Klotz bean oil at 40:1 The 35 pwk's had 52 pilots, 162 mains and CGL needles in the 3rd clip, I took it to the dunes for testing, it would not make any power, no power band, went one step at a time down to 142 with the mains, went back to 160 mains, then went down on the one step at a time to 42's, not much difference in power output. It revs a little slow, but not bad, I thought it was the stroke that slowed it down from the snappy 350 motors I an used to. Changed the needles to CEL, not any beter. Changed the needles to DGK, a little beter, but not much I replaced the stator with a rickie 100watt, because the lighting coil was burnt on the one that came with the bike, it was a no name 200 watt looking one no change, cleaned all electrical connections, coil ground ect I has vforce reeds that looked great upon inspection. What am I missing in my trouble shooting, and what jetting direction would you recommend I go? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 Get rid of the Ricky Stator and try it. They are notorious for causing electrical issues. One of the most common just happens to be the in ability to rev clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strongweld Posted May 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 The first stator and the rickie do not have any high rpm sputter or miss, I assume that is the problem with a bad stator. I am only generating about 30 horsepower, my 350 bike makes about 70 ,and would leave the 595 10 bike lengths in the dust in a drag race, this 595 should be at least 90 horsepower with massive torque. I don't have anything but paddles to do testing with, and the dunes are 6 hours away, looks like I need to buy some knobbies a oem stator, Dam it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 Yep. Also, try Un screwing the spark plug boots from the coil wires and cut the wires back about 1/2" and thread fresh boots back on. You've certainly ran through the range of jets that should definitely feed the motor what it needs, so I'd really start looking in to other issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strongweld Posted May 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 Friend just picked up an eddy current Dyno, last month from Florence Yamaha, been waiting for the software to get all ironed out for weeks now, chomping at the bit to get the bike on it and find the right direction to go, he has a cdi and coil from a known good running bike to test to see WTF is the problem. He does not think it is the stator, listening to it, he does think the jetting is too rich though, but that was with the CGL needles in the carbs. He also has some 35's bored to 36.5 to try with 60's and 160's from his bike if I want to make sure I don't have some catastropic carb issue. I can't fathom how jetting can make such a lack of power if it is not that far off. Back in 1997 at Glamis with JD, Last time I rode Banshees, the 565's I rode were power wheelieing in 6th gear with +10 swingarms and 20-10-10" x 9 paddle haulers, I expect mine to act similarly. I just put a new set of ultra light 22-10 -8 x 10 paddle extremes pumped up to 6psi before I did any testing with 14-41 sprockets, dropped to a 13 to be sure I wasn't geared up too much, that didn't change anything either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strongweld Posted May 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 Here are my new bikes, sold my other bikes in 98 with an offer too good to pass up. Got into stand up jetskis. Found these 2 on offer up last month for dirt cheap, I was the only person to actually come and look at them, everyone else just gave him low-ball offer messages over a 3 month period. When I saw the Superior Sleeve jug on the red bike, I knew this was the one for me.Sent from my Moto Z (2) using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTmachining Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 Here are my new bikes, sold my other bikes in 98 with an offer too good to pass up. Got into stand up jetskis. Found these 2 on offer up last month for dirt cheap, I was the only person to actually come and look at them, everyone else just gave him low-ball offer messages over a 3 month period. When I saw the Superior Sleeve jug on the red bike, I knew this was the one for me.Sent from my Moto Z (2) using TapatalkCool old school stuff. The West Coast has the best builders in the ATV industry....u can get anything done u need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeMachining Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 Cool old school stuff. The West Coast has the best builders in the ATV industry....u can get anything done u need. Yah, but delivery time is a little bit long ;-)Envoyé de mon SM-G935W8 en utilisant Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTmachining Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 Yah, but delivery time is a little bit long ;-)Envoyé de mon SM-G935W8 en utilisant TapatalkOnly to Canada lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strongweld Posted May 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 Lucky for me Frank at F-N-Fast is 20 minutes away, Sean at Cascade and Charlie at Superior Sleeve are only a 2 hour drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusto Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 Nice looking bikes. What happened to superior sleeve? Still do banshee stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTWANNARACE Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 2 hours ago, gusto said: Nice looking bikes. What happened to superior sleeve? Still do banshee stuff? Charlie Brown is pretty much retired sold off a bunch of his equipment over a year ago. He still does a little here and there but not much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusto Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 How do they run compared to cubs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 On May 26, 2018 at 4:32 PM, gusto said: How do they run compared to cubs ? There is no comparison. Lol... But seriously, they are torquey but they were the earliest aftermarket cylinders for these things, so CC to CC the CP Industries cylinders make more power as they have decades of refinement off the shelf. Not really an apples to apples comparison, but the Superior Sleeve stuff was the it cylinder for quite some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTmachining Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 2000 vs 2018. Big diff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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