DirectIntelect Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) Hey Guys, First and foremost I want to explicitly stress I am not a banshee guru as some are, but feel I do have some experience with the Banshee. Now, I recently built a 421 serval from FAST. Currently running 35PWK, PC Pipes, V3 Reeds, Pods, lock up clutch, 14/41 gearing,+2 A Arms,+4 Timing , 160m/48p , CEL 3rd from top. Carbs synced with fast tool, runs real nice. Problem is its, not that fun to me anymore. I know it seems odd, but I was expecting to push the throttle, and feel like I was going to flip. Just hasent happend! Now in month four. After upgrading from a stock banshee with pipes and reeds, it seems to me that stocker was more fun to ride. Now, i suspected it was me, so I raced my uncle with his stock with pipes and reeds banshee, and completely destroyed him by 3-4 lengths, but yet still his quad feels more tourqey.. I don't get it, am I expecting too much? When I ride his banshee it almost feels like it wants to toss me off, yet he doesn't stand a chance against me in a race! Could it be I'm just spinning tires, my extended a arms, why am I not in awe like so many of you serval owners? Please note I would never give it up, I love it...but I just feel like my thousands of dollars invested into upgrades , the serval seems a little tame. I need to ride a serval that is complete done up and compare, unfournateley I just don't see many where I currently ride. Maybe it's just me, who knows. Sorry for the long rant. Eric Edited August 8, 2013 by DirectIntelect Quote
rubberneck Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 ditch the PC pipes, try some shearers or CPIs then report back Quote
jbooker82 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 There is no magical port job or cylinder that will give you massive low end torque and high rpm power. When you port for more power it comes at the expense of bottom end. Quote
Jereme6655 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 your blowin your tires off. Watch it happen every time i ride. I ride a dune/play port from FAST, fmf's and a few bolt ons and my buddy runs a 421 serval from FAST. Every single time we just cruise down a dirt road we always wind up messin with each other. Always winds up leading to us givin it hell and seeing who wins. I manage to keep up side by side to him up until the bottom of 5th. That's only because whenever he hammers it i watch him just spin and spin up til 4th. I believe next time we go riding he is going to raise the front gear one tooth to give him a little less low end grunt and try and trade it off to the top end some. Quote
special06shee Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 If a stock bike feels that is has more tq then your 421 serval, then you have problems! Is your serval cylinder as cast? Or is it ported? Either way, your bike should feel leaps and bounds stronger then a stock bike with pipes. Quote
dirtydownunder Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 ride it on the street, see what its like, i thought my stock serval was pretty lame. i was not at all in awe. Quote
wacko2000 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 Something is up with your setup, these guys are prob right about blowing ya tires loose, I've ridden 2 servals Ported and stock cast and it's a huge difference vs a bike with bolt ons!! Servals I've ridden had no problems ripping the tires off the ground in 4th gear!! Post some more details on your setup!! Joe Quote
locogato11283 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 I'm guessing stock worn out Banshee tires or an ITP or Maxxis tread type tire. Quote
camatv Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 try it in the sand with good paddles. not gecko's in all reality the bonestock banshee made power in very low rpm's. (3500-7500) its closer to a boring 4 stroke than a built banshee with power in the upper rpm's.. ( 7500-11,000) or serval with around (5500-9000 rpm) thats probably the main difference you are "feeling". Quote
DirectIntelect Posted August 8, 2013 Author Report Posted August 8, 2013 If a stock bike feels that is has more tq then your 421 serval, then you have problems! Is your serval cylinder as cast? Or is it ported? Either way, your bike should feel leaps and bounds stronger then a stock bike with pipes. Just a clean up port by Jeff.... Quote
DirectIntelect Posted August 8, 2013 Author Report Posted August 8, 2013 What tires are you running? Currently have Sedona Bazooka's 21/7/10 20/11/9 Quote
DirectIntelect Posted August 8, 2013 Author Report Posted August 8, 2013 ride it on the street, see what its like, i thought my stock serval was pretty lame. i was not at all in awe. I ride it on the street, this was where i raced the second time. When on pavement, for sure im spinning tires out....but still...Just not what i was expecting Quote
DirectIntelect Posted August 8, 2013 Author Report Posted August 8, 2013 try it in the sand with good paddles. not gecko's in all reality the bonestock banshee made power in very low rpm's. (3500-7500) its closer to a boring 4 stroke than a built banshee with power in the upper rpm's.. ( 7500-11,000) or serval with around (5500-9000 rpm) thats probably the main difference you are "feeling". I think you're right. Because no matter what at the end of the day, i don't think anyone can compete unless its a bigger Banshee. Thanks to all for replies thus far,,, Quote
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