Washburn Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 First I have a Trinity intake with a single 35PWK with the airbox adaptor plate on the airbox a single uni filter and the lid on. I tried pulling the lid off and running it on straight country roads 1-5 (try for 6 but no go youll see why below) for more airflow to see if it would help my boggy case out and it made little to no diffrence. I can ride fine and fast 1-3 and shee runs great. but when I get into fast sections that call for 4th and above shee gets real boggy when I hit a cirten speed. usualy halfway through 4th or rite at 5th. brappp braaaaaaaaapppppp braaaaaaaaaaaaaaapp braaaaaaaaaappppppppbummbummmm dead. I have to let the throttle out and hold it quarter of the way in at 4th for it to steady run. Im thinking, Hopeing actualy, that Im just to rich on the main being a 195 (Winter jetting in the first place) rite now so Ill move down to a 190 and hope that does the trick. Im no jetting genious by any means and I dont want to mess with the needel jet its rite in the middle 3rd clip and its been fine up untill now. My Fasst Flexxx bars are officaly in at my guys shop and ready to be instaled for Memorial day weekend. I dont want this problem to continue so any tips, suguestions, would really help me out. Thanks in Advance Washburn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark101180 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 im no jetting expert either but it sounds like ur running out of gas not air i would make it a lil richer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xTHUNDERCATx Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 (edited) i had them same problem on my 250r i dont know if yours will have the same solution but it turned out i was running lean and it had burnt a section off of my piston(so i was running on rings only at one point) so when i hit the hire rpms of 4-5 gear the rings would buckle or do something but compression died and that was the result so maybe check your pistons ? they could be jsut worn out rather then being lean depending on when u replaced them last Edited May 16, 2009 by xTHUNDERCATx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loc Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 My Banshee is doing the same thing. I am pretty sure it is running lean. If it were me I would bump up the main and hopefully that will help. Did you check your plugs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regalrocket Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Its VERY VERY lean, keep doing that and your gonna bind the rings, or melt a piston. Chances are you already did some good damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washburn Posted May 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 WOW! Thanks guys! I was thinking it was rich because of the heat comming off the motor,head, and pipes and my plugs look too dark. But now that you guys mention it I probably am or definatly could be running lean, and Ill bump up the maiin to a 200 and go from there. Cant hurt thats for sure. Yeah and I did run 2 tank fulls out of her while shee was running this way so I may well have done damage. I look at it this way though its an 03 and its on its stock bore stock ports. Everything inside the engine is virgin. So it is about that time mabey to bore it .10 over and get some wesico pro lites in there and mabey just mabey do my 4 mil lowend GNCC Port. I have the PT Mids to match. I might put them on to switch up from my TR6s this weekend. Keep the information comming, anything you can think of write down and I/we (thats why I love this board) will go over the answers. Thank you all, Neil AKA Washburn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washburn Posted May 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Anymore tips guys? I wont have access to a PC when I get up there. I already have a 195, 200 and 210 on hold should I look into anything else? As soon as I up the main jet Im just gonna run it, hope it runs well and if it does not worry about looking into the motor. Or should I mabey take the head off and look at the tops of the pistons? Anything else anyone can think of that I should check? Anything? Thanks again Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKheathen Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 clean your fuel tank screen and valve. you may be running the bowls low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Madd Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Check the compression, and perform a leakdown test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertdeweller Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 check your float level maybe even set it a tad on the high side you may be running the bowl out of fuel. I have had that problem with dual carbs on a long steep hill with a single you have cut your capacity in half. I am not sure if you can buy a larger needle and seat for those to increase the flow or not. just another option to check if you run out of other ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragbanshee Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 clean your fuel tank screen and valve. you may be running the bowls low I was wondering if he could be running dry, wasn't sure how hard he was running it up to 4th when it starts bogging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001Stroker Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I'm also thinking the bowls might be running dry. My 4mil was doing that (only when I pinned the throttle), and I ordered a Pingel. I know you can drill out your stock petcock, but it was leaking anyways. Best thing I could've done. No more running dry on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monster_energy06 Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 im having the same problem also.. im also goin toward my carbs are running dry.. ever since i put .030 over jugs with porting its been doin this, and i went up 6 jet size.. ill keep jetting it .. i got everything from 180to460 jets im pairs for mikuni carbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragbanshee Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Well I just put my cpi's on last week and had a couple chances to get it out. The last time I hit it kinda hard through the gears and hit 6th and 2-3 seconds later just went flat. The bike ran damn good up to that, kind of the 1st thing I thought, but havn't had a chance to play with the jetting. Switched from the t5's and it never done it never done it with those on it, doesn't that sound rich though, thought the cpi's would need more fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washburn Posted May 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I was wondering if he could be running dry, wasn't sure how hard he was running it up to 4th when it starts bogging. As hard and as fast as the motor lets me. If Im on the throttle I dont let up Im always in high rpms and if I hit a straight away its reving from there as hard as it can. My guy said again on the phone he thinks its still rich. He knows my jetting though and you guys dont. Ive been running a 190 main in the hotter season and a 195 in the colder season, More I think of it I dident switch back to a 190 Im still running my winter jetting. So atleast if its running rich and only at high speeds Im thinking I dident harm anything and Im fine. I have a huge ride/race day on saturday then my girl and a few of her friends are comming up on sunday till monday and the Banshee MUST RUN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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