killshee Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 how do they work and what is the benifit of them also what is a pancake barring just trying to learn comething new been thinking about doing some upgrades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pardee208 Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 how do they work and what is the benifit of them also what is a pancake barring just trying to learn comething new been thinking about doing some upgrades i wouldnt recommend a lockout for your mods posted in your sig, lockouts are for higher HP bikes. but i would highly recommend a pancake bearing, its more of insurance then anything, somewhat smoother shifting also. i put them in all my banshee motors, banshee's are known to weld the clutch rod to the ball, therefore destroying your case. hope this helps. PardeeBoy Racing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00tbanshee Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 saving me typing, do a search this is brought up about once a month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killshee Posted February 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 i did do a search and i didnt find anything do u have a link to a good thread ..... also what would u recomend to me i am running brand new plates and all six brand new HD springs with sea 10w30 and my clutch is ajusted so there is no pressure on the push rod ....(1/8) wiggle in the lever. and it still gives in the higher gears also .... i plan on porting and going to a 4mill as soon as i have the money..... as for the pancake barring ok so u say i need one thats a plus but what do they do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00tbanshee Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 the pancake bearing will save you a big headache in the long run.what happens is you will weld the clutch rod,ball and lever all together and 90% of the time you have to split the cases to get it out then.i know i had too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2slow350 Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 If I were you I would put 3 stock springs in and 3 hd springs only.. Oh and make sure you dont put 2 of the same spring right by one another.. Lol If you put a lockout on it later you can put all the stock springs back in... Jmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uwenr Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 i did do a search and i didnt find anything do u have a link to a good thread ..... also what would u recomend to me i am running brand new plates and all six brand new HD springs with sea 10w30 and my clutch is ajusted so there is no pressure on the push rod ....(1/8) wiggle in the lever. and it still gives in the higher gears also .... i plan on porting and going to a 4mill as soon as i have the money..... as for the pancake barring ok so u say i need one thats a plus but what do they do First I have to say thats a great ass. I would buy a lockout when you go to a 4 mil. I had nothing but problems with the stock clutch set up, and when you lose a clutch plate you are going to lose the plastic water pump gear and prob the crank seal which means splitting the cases. I would also think about a billet basket, just speaking from experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperlite33 Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 I have a 4mil and know plenty of others with the same setup that aren't running a lockout that have absolutly no problems. If your trying to save some money when you build your 4mil, try it without to see if you really need it, but definetly get the pancake bearing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-in-Cali Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Can anyone provide a link to a comp that sells pancake bearings at a decent price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uwenr Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Can anyone provide a link to a comp that sells pancake bearings at a decent price? http://www.vitosperformance.com/atv_parts/...=184&page=1 http://67.199.65.66/cascade_innovations/ne...ore_dept_id=267 http://www.whiteknuckleracing.com/index1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 A pancake bearing will not help it shift any better...it ONLY prevents welding the ball to the rod. It really all depends on what you want to do, but I'd agree...at this stage in your game (current list of mods) a lockup would be pointless. http://www.bossatvracing.com/index.php?mai...;products_id=17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster2006 Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 First I have to say thats a great ass. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireroad Express Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 WTF is a "lock out "clutch. is this the same as a "lock-up" system or is it something new on the market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Lockup lockout....same thing. Via centrifugal force it pushes against the clutch to prevent it from slipping..a la...locking it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killshee Posted February 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 ok so y would i run 3stock 3hd when its still sliping is there a better tranny fluind to try i have sea 10w30 now ..... thanxs 4 the ass comments :biggrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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