well seeing a 350 run 3.77 for one..then also once i get my cub motor runin i see my bro with a 77hp motor run right beside me..thats enough for me to think that hp numbers dont mean shit...im always curious to see hp numbers when someone has a motor built..then i can go to PS and check thru their shit just to see how much variance there is between builders and dynos..the variance is huge which leads me to believe that these numbers mean very little..this weekend also made me think "f**k the hp" when my bros bike ran right along most of the cub motors there..even those guys were very surpised at how hard it launched and ran...hp is a real fun thing to look at, but as far as im concerned at this point it doesnt mean much to me...when it comes to cub motors i cant really see one builder blowing another out of the water...my cub came from a&s, but im not partial to them..i would have no problem runing a motor from k&t(they did my cr500 motor and it hauls), ssr, FAST, packard, and so on...