yea, i see no trails in those pictures..trails involve trees usually, i see none in those pics.
chase, most of the trails i ride are tight technical ones..sorry buddy but your +8 and outframes wouldnt work where i ride..youd have dents 10 feet after entering them.thats if you actually got in, because theres stumps, rocks and all kinds of nasty shit..that +8 wouldnt work well for a skid plate..ill get some helmet cam video of some trails i ride sometime soon..