I'm not trying to copy anyone's port work so no need to even go down that road. Im sure builders here have enough "tracers" to their templates as it is and from a builders standpoint, nothing ventured nothing gained. Copying someone elses work would do no good in the quest for what id be wanting to achieve. Ever willing to learn and with a good understanding of two stoke engine operation and theory, stooping to the level of tracing someone elseelse's work is outside of my moral. I wouldn't want someone doing the same to me so with that respect whether u will believe what I say or not, u won't find me with copys or templates of a builders port work - just sayin. I have no dyno results to stand behind what I do with my port templates. I based a "trail port" of my own by that of a race logic template a budy of mine has used.in the past as.well as i have. A degree tool should show the differences between mine and theirs so that's out as well. Anyways I just sugguested I be the one to go through the hassel of shipping and recieving his parts, we use a reputable site sponser, get reputable results and a solid build. He sends me one piece, I send him one piece back - easy bolt in installation and he's done - life is just a little simpler that way. My ability to "assemble" these engines since I'm not a "builder" will speak for its own. A little criticism won't hurt me, if my customer is happy in the end, I will be too. Plus its not like he'll be shipping it halfway accross the country, if he really wanted to come find me it wouldn't take but a few hours driving. Bottom line, I'm here to help. Thats all I offered most of all.