I agree in my experience with other pipes such as CPI, T-5s, and now the R-2s as far as a all around pipe I think there is no comparison and as you said the looks I get and people asking what pipes these are make it all worth it. They make some awesome power and look amazing and sound sick too. Win,Win,Win. I hope they dont go away cause these are amazing pipes and I will continue to tell people about them for as long as I own them.