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If these Americans moved to where the jobs where..... they'd have to learn to speak Chinese and be willing to move to Wing Wang China. China can manufacture anything thats made in American for a fraction of the price, even with trade tarrifs and the costs of shipping overseas. American companies have two advantages over the Chinese, we can fill orders faster and american quality is always better than Chinese. You eager young collage grads thinkin' they're secure with thier "high tech" jobs might get a surprise when the high tech companies figure out how to outsource. India is a one country that comes to mind that is taking away higer paying, so called high tech computer related jobs away from American workers. Its sad to see tags on American flags that read "made in China", as the guy who put 20 years in the lumber mill gets layed off because of downsizing, or the 120 year old Pennsylvania House furniture company shut down... both cases caused by cheap Chinese imports invading the market. I guess its NAFTA at work . Who was the president when Nafta went down ? I think it was Clinton. That bastard . domo origato everyone

Darling..... I don't give you any labels now do I ??? And if you think im trying to "pull heart strings", I say "your views are DISGUSTING to me." It must be hard trying to defend Bush all the time, is it "gettin' to ya" yet ? I gotta run, its friday night !!! its been fun talkin to yas all.

The point is.... We were attacked by Muslim radical terrorists. Iraq was not a threat and there are 10+ other countries that are more of a threat. The report that came out last week made it official that they had no WMDs, the 9\11 commision's report made it official that Iraq had nothing to do with 9\11. So why the hell are we there ?? Why are we spending 87 billion of my tax dollars there ? Why are we allowing 1000+ of our Americans dying a horrible death there ? Why are we allowing thousands more Americans getting thier legs are arms blown off there ? Why have so many civilian Iraq's(humans) died during this war ? WHAT FOR ?? that is my point. damnit if we were fightin the terrorists there would be no issues here !!

Darling, I prefer to be called an "American" thank you. I don't even know the correct definition of "liberal", Im just a dude, living in America, working 40 hours a week tryin' to speak my views. "American" please.

no doubt they liberated Iraq from a Saddam. No one doubts that. Thats not the problem here people...... The problem here is we are fighting a war against the "terrorists". Where is Osama Bin Laden, the leader of Al-Quida ? 16 out of 19 terrorists on the planes that hit the world trade center came from Saudi Arabia, not Iraq. Since we liberated Iraq, should be liberate Saudi Arabia, Lebonan, Jordan, UAE, Cuba, Uzbekestan, China, Phillipenes, Liberia, Somolia, Syira, France, NORTH KOREA, IRAN ?? Don't ya think anyone of any of those countries poses just as much threat at Iraq did. Now its officially written in history that Iraq didnt even have any WMD's, and that our sanctions were working just fine and that IRAQ POSED NO IMMINTE DANGER TO ATTACKING THE USA and that Iraq was not involved in any way with the 9\11 tradedy. Go tell your buddy to go rip into the mothers and father in our country who lost sons and daughters in a war that more than half of our country feels was a mistake. Dead is dead my freind. Your not coming back. I respect our troops, its the policy they have to follow that I don't agree with. Bush spins the same thing.... they spin any questions posed towards Iraq as "un-patriotic" and "troop bashing". Sickening that our govt plays these games with our lives.

Kerry, just like every good american TRUSTED AND BELEIVED in what the President tells us. Bush told us that Iraq had WMD's. When I heard that Iraq had WMD, I was all for invading just like the majority of us. But as the war progressed and facts and truths came out, we "flip flopped".... we looked at the true facts and decided it was way wrong. Your quote was taken out of context. The republicans can take anything someone says and make it sound the way they want it. If you look the whole picture, you'll get the truth. Thats how Kerry confronted the "flip flop" claim in the first debate.

agreed. I debated with the Bush-heads for the previous 6 pages and EVERYTHING I tried to preach just got spun out of control..... republican style. I just ask everyone to look at this topic with an open mind. Dont make your choice until election day. Guys are sayin' Bush won the debates and I can't beleive that these people can make those claims without the fear of looking like a moron. The polls show Kerry won all three debates. I can't beleive someone said "kerry only won cause he speaks so well". I can't beleive the blinders some people have. I absolultly love what Kerry said about aboriton rights, stem cell research and gay\lesbo issues. He basically said that as a president of this country, he can not make decisions based on what his religion taught him. THANK YOU !!! NOT ALL OF US BELIVE IN YOUR GODS. Its fine with me if the president belives in God, just don't tell me what to do because of your beliefs. When the same questions were posed to Bush.... he preached that he loves god..... did you hear the part where he said "he prays all the time" to "look for direction". He then went on to say that he didnt believe in embreonic(sp) stem cell research because of its morally wrong. HIS FUCKIN' MORALS !!!!!!! WHAT ABOUT MY MORALS AND MILLIONS OF OTHER AMERICANS LIKE ME......... Do you think Michael J Fox feels any better now that he knows what Bush's morals are. Poor Chris Reeves. RIP. Dead and did'nt get his chance because of our government's pushing its morals on us. Nancy Reagan also agrees with Kerry on this issue. f*ck YOU BUSH, Reeves and President Reagan are dead and so are millions of other Americans that just might of had a chance with this new stem cell science. Bush then stammered on and re-directed the question on GAYS AND LESBIANS. "I don't know" he said. He was put on the spot with that question and stood there like a deer in the headlights. You could see the smoke coming out of ears as he tried to think of an answer that wouldnt hurt his campaign, it wasnt a scripted question and he was drawing a blank. He's dumb as a rock and you people want him as your leader !!!?!?? I just don't see what you guys see in G Bush. Iv allready debated the Iraq issue and its pretty clear that Iraq was a big mistake, probably the biggest mistake our country ever made. BIGGEST MISTAKE OUR COUNTRY EVER MADE. The Bush people debated back with the stance that "some WMD's were found but never reported by the media". Well folks...... I haven't debated the WMD issue with ya's since that little ol' WMD report came out last week. HERE'S THE FINAL WORD ON WMD'S....... IRAQ HAD NO WMD'S. Its official now. o-fuckin-ficial. No WMDs. So any and all arguments you had concerning Iraq's WMD's are... it think the word is.... "moot". Fuckin' Moot "darlings" Now let me take a guess to your spin on the WMD report that came out last week. "Uh that report was put together by the freakin' devil worshiping liberals" or maybe you'll say "Kerry flip flopped". Oh I forgot, the term "flip flop" is no longer used by the repubs because during the debates Kerry answered all the flip flop claims thrown at him..... his flip flops were nothing but spin'age. Canadian drugs. Bush was against em cause he "was worried about the quality of the drugs". And you people can believe that. You can look me in the eye and say....... "your mother is paying $100 PER PILL because our president is worried about the quality of Canadian drugs". WTF does he think, Canada is not a third world country..... quality is not the issue here. Bush has no vested interest in supporting companies outside of the United States, he's not worried about mom and pop payin' thier life savings on prescription drugs as much as he's worried about "the quality of canadian drugs". YOU PEOPLE ARE KILLING ME HERE. And one last comment on the question that came up in the second debate where the lady asked Pres Bush if could name three mistakes he made. He couldnt give her a straight answer, he directed her question to "was iraq a mistake" and he stood fast to his claim that Iraq was not a mistake. This my freinds is the glaring warning of a man not fit to run our country. When one can not find fault with himself, when one thinks he's right 100% of the time. If he would dare realize he was wrong on ANY issue that would be seen as flip flopping, so never admit your wrong.......................... even if my high school buddies are dying half way around the world.... even if crippled and diseased people are being forbidden to seek cures based on his religious beliefs.......... even if.....*see Shelbyzfans post were he listed 100 of Bush's mistakes*..... never ever admit your wrong. Makes me sick. NOT PRESIDENTIAL.

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Local Chris Borich won 1st place again this past Saturday. They raced the 13th Round , the"Power Line Park" @ St. Clairsville, OH. Thats two wins in a row for Borich, he won riding the Honda 450r again. Bill Ballance came in third and Yokley got second place. Local Traci Cecco won the women's class on Saturday morning. She placed 7th OVERALL in the morning race. Local Tyler Lenig, who's cannondale burnt to the ground two weeks ago at the West Virgina GNCC raced on a new dontated ATK and had a great race. He came in second place in the 4 stroke stock class behind Billy Good. The two finished first and second OVERALL in the morning race. 252 racers raced in the morning race. Tyler beat 251 of em.

He's got a cannondale donated to him and he raced it in todays gncc. I think the Quadshop was his main sponsor and hooked him up with the quad. Elka donated shocks, Tire Balls gave him new tireballs and there were a bunch of other aftermarket companies that came to the rescue. the gncc community is good like that.

josh, haul that banshee up here and we'll tweak it back into shape. I got a BFH and a torch !!

cool. take care of it and respect it or it will bite ya. Id recommend doing all the maintence yourself now that you found the best Banshee forum on the net. post some pics

Tyler's quad is a complete loss, Tire Balls and Elka shocks are a few of the major components lost. He watched his quad burn, counting all the pops from his tire balls, and nothing could be done. He's just a Junior in High school and doesn't have a job. He's lost more than $8000 in this fire. Tyler is a neighbor of mine, and he is Women's champ Traci Cecco's nephew. Pics courtesy of quadzone.com ENGINE......

taken from gnccracing.com "Tyler Lenig's Smoking ATV Saturday morning's ATV race at the Mountaineer GNCC played host to one of the most bizzare moments in GNCC history. Four-Stroke Stock contender Tyler Lening's Cannondale caught on fire during the race, and basically burnt to the ground! Tyler was unhurt in the incident, but his finances will feel the burn of his entire machine being tosted. Can you help a brother out? The QuadZone.com website has started a fund to help Tyler get back on four unburnt wheels. Visit this link to see what you can do to help. Tyler doesn't know what happened, he was just riding and suddenly his machine caught fire! He's just 17 years old, and since he's a Junior in High School and competes in the GNCCs full time, he really doesn't have the money to buy a new quad. Every little bit helps." ELKA SHOCKS.....

Hey guys, anyone who follows the GNCC series should know who Tyler Lenig is.... well I was just surfin' GNCCracing.com and found a picture of his cannondale that caught fire during the last GNCC at the West Virgina race. Check it out, its a pretty "cool" picture....

Where do you think the money will come from to pay our 3 trillion dollar debt ? Thats bullshit too, the last thing on Kerry's agenda is attacking the offroading community and locking up our public lands. Fighting the eco-nazi's is done on a much smaller level, we... the atv riding comminuty can stand up to them. If Kerry leans towards the ecologist side of the issue, do you think he can just say..... "close Glamis" and bam its closed ?? No way dude. Its scare propaganda. If you base your vote on Kerry might close our riding areas, then you don't understand how a democracy works and how everyone has voice in our country. If we would all join in and fight for our right to ride.... we would never see a single acre of land close. scare propaganda. This was just all over the news last week.... NO ONE FROM KERRY'S CAMP is or has ever claimed Hailiburton is slipping money to Cheney for favors. Cheney get 2 mil(I think thats the number) every year as part of his retirement deal. FALSE INFO HERE FOLKS, DON'T LET THIS SHIT PERSUADE YOU. goodnight folks, its been fun but its gettin' late.

The Praire 650 and 700's are great quads. Does anyone in here own one ?? My bud's piped and filtered P650 will smoke 400ex's and Z400s in a drag race. Its like riding a mini truck.

Honda's 650 Rincon is weak compared the quads from the other manufactures. I was at the last Maxxis 6 hr "race of america" endurance race a few weeks ago and our team raced against a Rincon. It sure was nice looking, but after 5 laps or so he was in the pits and steam was pourin' outta the engine compartment. He took off and did a few more laps and came back to the pits with his rear fenders flappin' in the wind. They fixed him up and he took off again, only to do a few more laps before they called it quits. The quad was trashed. Our team raced and won the utility class on a Yamaha 660 Grizzly. You can read about the Maxxis 6 hour race held at Rausch Creek in this months Dirt Wheels mag.

I have a freind who bought a Brute Force and my cousin just picked up a brand new Suzuki king quad 750 with fuel injection. I have another good freind who rides a Praire 650 and another freind who rides a Griz 660. What quad shal we discuss first

This is what I found for ya...... Foxnews.com today. "By a thin margin, Bush leads Kerry 48 percent to 45 percent today in a head-to-head matchup among likely voters" (CNN) -- "President Bush and his Democratic challenger, Sen. John Kerry, are about even among likely and registered voters in the latest CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll, released Sunday. The poll showed Kerry and Bush tied at 49 percent each among likely voters interviewed. Among registered voters Bush had 49 percent and Kerry 47 percent. Independent candidate Ralph Nader was favored by 1 percent in each group." Washington Post Poll: Kerry Gains on Bush President's Lead Narrows to 49-47 Among Likely Voters By Richard Morin and Christopher Muste Washington Post Staff Writers Wednesday, October 6, 2004; 5:11 PM "Democratic nominee John F. Kerry has gained ground on President Bush since last week's presidential debate and narrowly trails Bush among likely voters in one of the most closely followed presidential campaigns in at least two decades, according to the latest Washington Post tracking poll. Bush leads Kerry 49 percent to 47 percent among those most likely to go to the polls. Independent Ralph Nader continues to barely register nationally, receiving 1 percent of the vote. Bush's current two-point advantage among likely voters is well within the survey's margin of sampling error, marking the closest the race has been. The poll also found that most Americans believe they have not gained ground economically since Bush took office." I don't know the names of oil companies, but im 100% sure Haliburton is not the only company in the whole world who could do this "job" in Iraq. Besides thats not the point, the point is... favortism for big business that happens to be the company our Vice President worked for as CEO. Its called a conflict of interest, and anytime something like that happens, there are people who are going to stand up to that bullshit. Government and big business scratching each others back is not good for Democracy and its NOT THE AMERICAN WAY. Dude, that is so weak. that the best argument you could think of ? Look everyone, I don't claim to be correct on every decision I'v made in my life, but when your wrong.... your wrong, and it takes a man to admit that he's wrong. You guys are in denial.... and so is your leader. You can't admit when your wrong, and the evil liberals are gaining ground on yas. But hell... BUSH HAS BALLS... and if your not a Bush supporter you don't have any balls....and thats all what counts..... I say we don't even debate the next war... and we invade Sweden next !!!!! Im all for layin' down the law on these terrorist, I don't think anyone will side with those bastards, but..... there is a right way and a wrong way to things.... and unfortunatly Mr. Bush went about his Iraqi war the wrong way.

smokin' out one side can be caused by a stuck ring. one shee's warmed up, the seal improves and the smokin' lessens.

I'll get over it when you say your sorry for making such a rude comment. If I recall, you called the people working manufacturing jobs "pee'ons". My buddy's mother, a freind of mine lost her job sewing shirts because the company went overseas. Pee'on job so give em away to China. The "high quality furniture manufacturing" job that I work is losing major companies every day to China and the cheap junk chinese furniture Wal-mart sells. Another Pee'on job. And the company we were discussing, Zippo Lighters..... a very "all american" company.... is losing huge market shares to Chinese rip offs.... and you called those factory workers..... "pee'ons". Just think Brooke, if you would apoligize for insulting all these hard working, low paid American workers, you could be labeled a flip flopper better show that you have "balls" and never admit your wrong. and Im sorry for dragging politics into this thread.

Fireball billet twin row, honda style. Rebelbanshee I don't think Quicksand makes rear bearing carriers.

I do the same pee'on work that KGL does. Im glad to see alot of others doing "pee'on" type work. Someday I hope to be a graphic designer like Brooke, so I can design graphics and shit. and no longer be a working class "pee'on".

I still love ya Rodney. KGL, no need in beatin' a dead horse. I know exactly what your going to say, and you know exactly what Im going to say, and Im tired of talkin' about politics.