like new PTR mids with fatboy 2 silencers. these are over 700 new. they had less than 1 tank of fuel through them. no bluing. no dents. going with ptr high revs, so these are not needed. looking to get 450 for the pipes may trade(what do you have?) I also have a stock stator assembly off of a 99. B/O I have pics, pm your e-mail & I will send some.