This last trip out to Gordons I got a pretty good view on some paddles I tried out. I brought my sandstars 20x8 & geckos 21x10, the geckos dont hook up for shit and dont throw a roost unless you sit on the handlebars. The sandstars are excellent and in my eyes I dont see any real big differences between them and the haulers, Keep in mind I have never run any haulers on my bike just them on my buddies bike, but they feel almost the same, lots of forward bite and you need alot of body english to turn sharp at any kind of speed. With the geckos you can flip 180's on hills like nothing, using just throttle, but I was losing holeshots to slowhundred ex's and passing them after the 3rd or 4th big whoop at the hill. The sandstars are cheap I got mine for 158.00 a set on itp's. My buddy had a kings turbo paddle on his KTM 400sx and that sunamabitch threw a roost about 1 inch behind the rear fender, I crossed behind one time and the sand went strait up my helmet and up the nose. sounds like the turbo paddles throw a vertical roost!