JJBYZ4x4 Posted December 5, 2007 Report Posted December 5, 2007 I removed the TORS according to the walkthrough and disconnected the parking brake switch on my she but she STILL will not come off idle. My next thing I can think of is the ignition box. Shee idles like a dream but as soon as i try to rev anywhere past idle, she bogs and misses but stays running. I think it's an aftermarket box under the seat towards the rear, do they go bad, or can I adjust timing or what?!?!?! If I put my hand over a carb while I try to rev it, it spits fuel all over my hand, so I don't think it's a lack of fuel, its just that shee won't burn it. Hoping I didn't buy a problem bike but who knows. HELP!!!! Quote
locogato11283 Posted December 5, 2007 Report Posted December 5, 2007 did it do that before you removed the tors? Quote
desert nut Posted December 5, 2007 Report Posted December 5, 2007 I removed the TORS according to the walkthrough and disconnected the parking brake switch on my she but she STILL will not come off idle. My next thing I can think of is the ignition box. Shee idles like a dream but as soon as i try to rev anywhere past idle, she bogs and misses but stays running. I think it's an aftermarket box under the seat towards the rear, do they go bad, or can I adjust timing or what?!?!?! If I put my hand over a carb while I try to rev it, it spits fuel all over my hand, so I don't think it's a lack of fuel, its just that shee won't burn it. Hoping I didn't buy a problem bike but who knows. HELP!!!! have you checked the pilot jet it could be clogged the happened to me and my pilot jet was clogged Quote
JJBYZ4x4 Posted December 5, 2007 Author Report Posted December 5, 2007 have you checked the pilot jet it could be clogged the happened to me and my pilot jet was clogged I completely dissasembled and thoroughly cleaned both carbs. This is actually a new set of carbs becaue i thought they might be the problem. two sets of carbs and exact same problem. Yes this problem was present before I removed TORS Quote
csrmel Posted December 5, 2007 Report Posted December 5, 2007 sounds like a tors problem. that is exactly what it does when tors detects a problem. strange. Quote
dekker Posted December 5, 2007 Report Posted December 5, 2007 There is a little box on the left side of the frame across from the cdi make sure you un plugged it Quote
fastrthnu Posted December 5, 2007 Report Posted December 5, 2007 There is a little box on the left side of the frame across from the cdi make sure you un plugged it maybe its to rich? If the tors system is removed entirely, do you have elim caps and idle screws? I doubt its the box, those are rarely a problem, and at the slight chance it is, it prob would not fire at all. Quote
JJBYZ4x4 Posted December 5, 2007 Author Report Posted December 5, 2007 maybe its to rich? If the tors system is removed entirely, do you have elim caps and idle screws? I doubt its the box, those are rarely a problem, and at the slight chance it is, it prob would not fire at all. Yes I have new carbs without tors tops and I doubt its to rich. The main jets are 200's right now with fmf pipes and a boost bottle Quote
badassbanshee479 Posted December 5, 2007 Report Posted December 5, 2007 did you disconnect the black box under the gas tank?? how about the clutch wire and the throttle wire?? is the e brake still on the bike?? did you check the reeds? 200 mains seems alittle small for a piped bike. what is your elevation? Quote
FASTOYS Posted December 5, 2007 Report Posted December 5, 2007 Make sure you have your 3" hose between the carbs, are the right slides in the right carb? Make sure cutaway is toward the filter side! Unplug the tors box under tank in front of mtr, above left pipe. As said may need to rewire switch on clutch handle. Quote
dajogejr Posted December 5, 2007 Report Posted December 5, 2007 beat me to it Jeff... YOu said these are new carbs...as in new...STOCK carbs? 200 main is too small for a piped bike. But you have other issues. If the carbs checkout ok with what fastoys suggested, start looking electrical again. Your bike will be LEAN as all hell up top, but....it should at least run past idle. Broken magnets in the flywheel, failing stator, failing CDI....bad coil caps...test 'em all. Quote
BellicoseBanshee Posted December 5, 2007 Report Posted December 5, 2007 (edited) Take a look at the wiring diagram (2002 and up, although I have an '01 and it is the same as the '02 and up ) The parking brake switch has nothing to do with the TORS. The parking brake switch wires directly to the CDI. When the parking brake is set, the CDI will not let the bike rev much past idle. Try connecting just the parking brake switch and see if that solves the problem (make sure ALL the TORS plugs are disconnected, as stated above). If it idles perfectly, it is unlikely that the CDI is faulty, for the CDI (solid-state component) will usually fully function or completely fail. Remember, the parking brake switch (black lever on the clutch perch) must also be closed or the CDI will not let the engine rev... EDIT: If the circuit is open when the parking brake is NOT set, then unplugging the connector will not effect engine RPM because the CDI will still sense an open circuit either way. I am not sure how the switch works... Edited December 5, 2007 by BellicoseBanshee Quote
JJBYZ4x4 Posted December 6, 2007 Author Report Posted December 6, 2007 Take a look at the wiring diagram (2002 and up, although I have an '01 and it is the same as the '02 and up ) The parking brake switch has nothing to do with the TORS. The parking brake switch wires directly to the CDI. When the parking brake is set, the CDI will not let the bike rev much past idle. Try connecting just the parking brake switch and see if that solves the problem (make sure ALL the TORS plugs are disconnected, as stated above). If it idles perfectly, it is unlikely that the CDI is faulty, for the CDI (solid-state component) will usually fully function or completely fail. Remember, the parking brake switch (black lever on the clutch perch) must also be closed or the CDI will not let the engine rev... EDIT: If the circuit is open when the parking brake is NOT set, then unplugging the connector will not effect engine RPM because the CDI will still sense an open circuit either way. I am not sure how the switch works... Well so far I've tried everything you guys minus removing coil thats my next thing.I tried everything with the parking brake switch . I disconnected parking brake switch wires, pushed in button manually with wires connected and also put a jumper wire across terminals on engine side to make a closed circuit. Still won't come off idle. Dunno?!?! Quote
JJBYZ4x4 Posted December 6, 2007 Author Report Posted December 6, 2007 Well so far I've tried everything you guys minus removing coil thats my next thing. Just out of curiousity, how would swapping the carb slides affect its running? I though they were identical? I disconnected parking brake switch wires, pushed in button manually with wires connected and also put a jumper wire across terminals on engine side to make a closed circuit. Still won't come off idle. Dunno?!?!Also, the headlights/tailight are not working. I don't know if it is related. Does anyone know where an electrical schematic is for 2000 banshee. I downloaded the manual off this site but it does not inlcude parking brake circuit. Quote
BellicoseBanshee Posted December 6, 2007 Report Posted December 6, 2007 Also, the headlights/tailight are not working. I don't know if it is related. Does anyone know where an electrical schematic is for 2000 banshee. I downloaded the manual off this site but it does not inlcude parking brake circuit. The green/yellow wire goes directly to the CDI, the black wire is the ground. Quote
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