CombatTalon2 Posted December 3, 2007 Report Posted December 3, 2007 So I was riding glamis, about 3 miles from camp and the shee just died, not ripping, just rolling along about 1/4 throttle. anyway, tried new plugs, nothing, no spark at all. So the shee sat the entire weekend and i rode my CRF450. Anyway, i have since tested my electrical system. Kill switch is good, key is good, pickup is good, stator winding is BAD. Also, my coil is testing bad on the secondary test. Primary between the two terminals is testing good but as soon as i go to test between terminal and plug cap (with or without the cap on) i get OL no resistance. so which did i lose first? The coil, then the stator, or the stator then the coil? They would have had to go out simultaneously right? Did the stator fry the coil. Anyway, gonna order a new coil and stator in the next few days. Saw some discussion on ricky stator products, other options? comments please!!! Quote
brian Posted December 3, 2007 Report Posted December 3, 2007 (edited) The coil is kinda a crapshoot IMO. Mine runs good, but tests bad every time. I just keep one handy to throw in there when out riding just in case I loose spark. Look in the Clymers manual for testing the stator. The directions in there are good and easy to follow. Ricky Stators are the best IMO. Edited December 3, 2007 by brian Quote
CombatTalon2 Posted December 3, 2007 Author Report Posted December 3, 2007 The coil is kinda a crapshoot IMO.Mine runs good, but tests bad every time. I just keep one handy to throw in there when out riding just in case I loose spark. Look in the Clymers manual for testing the stator. The directions in there are good and easy to follow. Ricky Stators are the best IMO. already tested the stator in accordance with the clymers. Dead on the windings (Red and Green Wires) Lighting was good, (yellow and Black) and pickup was good. The coil thing has me confused. I guess i can just order a new stator, throw it on and see if the coil is actually bad? Quote
fixitrod Posted December 3, 2007 Report Posted December 3, 2007 (edited) My test the same way... always has. I have replaced my stator twice... no matter what the testing says and it's been the right choice. I think you'll fine the coil is fine. Oh, and I haven't had one issue since I put in a ricky stator stator. Everything they make is quality. Edited December 3, 2007 by fixitrod Quote
Flo Jo Posted December 3, 2007 Report Posted December 3, 2007 My Shee did the same thing in October this year its under the title AGGRAVATED. :: I finallay figured it out it was a short in the system my key switch was shorting out. I just took it out and soldered the two wires togethor and no more problems. beleive me i was aggravated and i even bought a new stator a waste of 350.00 bones when all along it was my key switch. :verymad: It runs fine now :biggrin: Hope this helps... Quote
blowit Posted December 3, 2007 Report Posted December 3, 2007 So I was riding glamis, about 3 miles from camp and the shee just died, not ripping, just rolling along about 1/4 throttle. anyway, tried new plugs, nothing, no spark at all. So the shee sat the entire weekend and i rode my CRF450. Anyway, i have since tested my electrical system. Kill switch is good, key is good, pickup is good, stator winding is BAD. Also, my coil is testing bad on the secondary test. Primary between the two terminals is testing good but as soon as i go to test between terminal and plug cap (with or without the cap on) i get OL no resistance. so which did i lose first? The coil, then the stator, or the stator then the coil? They would have had to go out simultaneously right? Did the stator fry the coil. Anyway, gonna order a new coil and stator in the next few days. Saw some discussion on ricky stator products, other options? comments please!!! s Quote
Screaming Yellow Zonker Posted December 3, 2007 Report Posted December 3, 2007 I blew a CDI for no apparent reason. letting it idle and after 1 min it died. I would borrow one from a friend to see if that would get it started. before you go ordering parts. just a suggestion. Quote
spurdy Posted December 3, 2007 Report Posted December 3, 2007 Same thing happened to me. Coil tested bad. It is hard to check the coil accurately without it being under a load. I bought a coil and still no worky. Checked the stator and it tested good, however, I did find a broken wire in the harness. Now I have a spare coil and that is what I use to test with to see if my original coil is bad! Quote
pweezy42 Posted December 3, 2007 Report Posted December 3, 2007 My Shee did the same thing in October this year its under the title AGGRAVATED. :: I finallay figured it out it was a short in the system my key switch was shorting out. I just took it out and soldered the two wires togethor and no more problems. beleive me i was aggravated and i even bought a new stator a waste of 350.00 bones when all along it was my key switch. :verymad: It runs fine now :biggrin: Hope this helps... i am going through this same issueright now excepty when we switched everything out from a running shee(except the wire harness) we got spark but when back toghter only 1 side was smoking thro the tail pipe then none i am hoping its just the wire harness shorting out but i wont know till i get one i keep u posted Quote
blowit Posted December 3, 2007 Report Posted December 3, 2007 So I was riding glamis, about 3 miles from camp and the shee just died, not ripping, just rolling along about 1/4 throttle. anyway, tried new plugs, nothing, no spark at all. So the shee sat the entire weekend and i rode my CRF450. Anyway, i have since tested my electrical system. Kill switch is good, key is good, pickup is good, stator winding is BAD. Also, my coil is testing bad on the secondary test. Primary between the two terminals is testing good but as soon as i go to test between terminal and plug cap (with or without the cap on) i get OL no resistance. so which did i lose first? The coil, then the stator, or the stator then the coil? They would have had to go out simultaneously right? Did the stator fry the coil. Anyway, gonna order a new coil and stator in the next few days. Saw some discussion on ricky stator products, other options? comments please!!! The reason your coil tests bad is the test it self is wrong. We noted an error in the clymer manuals years ago and secondaries should be tested from lead to lead. I recommend testing with caps off and testing the caps separately. Coils rarely fail but get the finger most of the time because of testing errors. The coil is just a boosting transformer with so little current, it's like running a V8 at idle it's whole life. Brandon Quote
fixitrod Posted December 3, 2007 Report Posted December 3, 2007 The reason your coil tests bad is the test it self is wrong. We noted an error in the clymer manuals years ago and secondaries should be tested from lead to lead. I recommend testing with caps off and testing the caps separately. Coils rarely fail but get the finger most of the time because of testing errors. The coil is just a boosting transformer with so little current, it's like running a V8 at idle it's whole life. Brandon Yes it is... great analogy. step up transformer just like in a power supply or battery charger. Quote
desert nut Posted December 5, 2007 Report Posted December 5, 2007 The coil is kinda a crapshoot IMO.Mine runs good, but tests bad every time. I just keep one handy to throw in there when out riding just in case I loose spark. Look in the Clymers manual for testing the stator. The directions in there are good and easy to follow. Ricky Stators are the best IMO. i had the same issue with my '96 shee i changed stator and coil but it ended being the cdi i bought a ricky stator cdi it worked great Quote
CombatTalon2 Posted December 5, 2007 Author Report Posted December 5, 2007 i had the same issue with my '96 shee i changed stator and coil but it ended being the cdi i bought a ricky stator cdi it worked great did you test your Stator with a multimeter before you replaced it? Quote
dajogejr Posted December 6, 2007 Report Posted December 6, 2007 My test the same way... always has. I have replaced my stator twice... no matter what the testing says and it's been the right choice. I think you'll fine the coil is fine.Oh, and I haven't had one issue since I put in a ricky stator stator. Everything they make is quality. No disrespect....but I feel RS products are garbage... I'm on my second one in as many years. I've heard of a lot of grumbling about the quality of their part, especially the 200W high output version. Neither of the Stators I got from him were trimmed right at the pickup coil, either.... A less experienced person could have very well set the gap wrong and had a dead bike, or very poorly running one. All you'd have to do is trim the excess plastic... OEM Stators are the only way to go.... Quote
Dgrey Posted December 6, 2007 Report Posted December 6, 2007 Im actually in the process of shipping my RS back to him for a replacement. At high RPM it starts to cut out a little. In first when revving its fine but if im drag racing I can not even start out in 1st because the RPM is so high that it cuts out righ away. The guy that did my porting said go back to the stock one but I damaged it taking it out so im EFFED in that catagory. I bent one of the coils trying to get the flywheel off w/o the correct tool Quote
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