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ptr mids, hands down, they have the smoothest power of any other pipe. Perfect for wheelies, trails, mx, sand pits.....Anybody can ride anything through a trail and clutch the hell out of it, but the ptr's pull hard, but smooth at a very low rpm right up to 8800rpms...you can lug the motor in a high gear and still have the powerband come in smoothly and pull harder and harder as the rpms climb.

 

I think that has me sold.

 

How much do PTR mids run? Ill need the pipe exhaust and ill prolly get a jet kit.

 

Do they come in anything other than chrome?

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Ptr mids are expensive. 700 for bare and 900 for chrome....I'd watch ebay if your in no hurry , I see them on there all the time for around 300 bucks. Don't bother w/ a jet kit . Buy 280,290,300 mains, thats all you'll need. Also get a 15 tooth front sprocket. You can buy them bare and have them powdercoated for around 75 bucks at a local metal shop....

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ptr mids, hands down, they have the smoothest power of any other pipe. Perfect for wheelies, trails, mx, sand pits.....Anybody can ride anything through a trail and clutch the hell out of it, but the ptr's pull hard, but smooth at a very low rpm right up to 8800rpms...you can lug the motor in a high gear and still have the powerband come in smoothly and pull harder and harder as the rpms climb.

 

That's a good description of how my Gnarlys perform. The fit and finish are great so far (low hours), but they are chrome and shiney. I heard an FMF silencer that I didn't like (Powercore 2), but I don't know if they needed repacking (also smelled like sulfer). I don't plan on changing the exhaust unless my riding areas change (only been in 6th gear 5 TIMES :banghead: ), but if I ever had to get another exhaust I would try the PT Mids (that bend in the pipe reminds me of a crazy straw :thumbsup: ) for my own comparison; not because I don't like the Gnarlys.

 

P.S.- I saw the hush type looking system from DMC?, so I don't know if db level's are an issue. I run the "Q" series silencer which are rated 94-96db with no complaints.

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I thought for wheelies on a banshee you dont want to do them in the powerband because it's just "jumpy?" And if that's the case wouldnt a low-mid end power pipe make the powerband come on a lot earlyer?

 

Just wondering.....im no wheelie guy for sure :banghead:

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I thought for wheelies on a banshee you dont want to do them in the powerband because it's just "jumpy?" And if that's the case wouldnt a low-mid end power pipe make the powerband come on a lot earlyer?

 

Just wondering.....im no wheelie guy for sure :banghead:

 

It is just the opposite. Having a highend pipe will make the powerband hit even harder which makes wheelies much harder to control. Have a lowend pipe (where the powerband is lacking with make wheelied a lot easier to control... The transition of power is much smoother therefore makes the power more usable in a situation like that. Which is what makes them such good mx pipes.

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Exactly, the low/midrange pipes have a lot smoother transition coming into the powerband......I ride wheelies from a dead start right into the powerband to the point where you can ride the edge of the powerband w/o any fault....the powerband comes in a lot earlier, but the hp is low, so you don't have that immediate jump in power. A lot of torque for acceleration, but low hp for smooth power. Best describe it like a 250R, but w/ power. :thumbsup:

This is also the reason why there is so much tires spin on a shee...High rev pipes hit hard and spin the tires too much...low end pipes will come in smooth allowing the tires to catch and pull as the rpms accelerate....Its a different type of power and takes a good day of riding to relearn how to use it...Short shifting, lugging the motor, gearing it up, really makes these pipes shine...

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Well thanx for clearing it up. My powerband ciomes on very violent. I see what you mean a less hard one would be best. When im doing a wheelie and i go into the powerhand, the front end tends to jump higher very quick causing me to slam on the rear brake. :rolleyes:

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I appreciate your advice. But I said im going to be doing mx and riding some wheelies.

 

I know it doesnt take a wizard to ride high pipes in the trails. Plus a wizard wouldnt choose high pipes in the trails because they know all.

 

it also doesnt take a wizard to know that banshees are not good wheelie quads! atleast at low speed. (i now realize this is almost a year old...)

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