well its news to me that the yfz450r is simply known as the "450r" (which the honda has been known as since it came out) because in someones opinion its a better quad then honda, so i guess it takes its designation too. no big deal, but then in the shoutbox zilla claims if a quad isnt as good (in his opinion) as another or if it isnt in production its considered "junk". yeah real mature that zilla is