Toluene Question

[sliverstang]

How many of you guys run Toluene in your 2 stroke. And what are you opinions and experience's with Toluene?

[sandman121383]

i don't and kno noone who does. sorry i can't help ya out.

[kartracer92]

I have seen you posted this question on many of the diff ATV forums and each of told you their opinion, I am not sure exactly what your looking for....but being a long time drag-racer, Kart racer and a technical enginel/rules official in a few diff racing sancationing bodies I can just only assume....

 

Toluene & xylene are already found in fuels at high quanities their a major part of fuel, however it will raise the octane but if you do your homework octaine is not going to give you an increase in performance that your obviously after.

 

If you are destined to "pour" something into your fuel toluene/xylene would be good canidates , not only they do nothing to help your performance they do nothing to harm yourself and surroundng.they are water soluable and are found in many things such as your sweethearts nail polish and your carb cleaner in the garage

 

My only guess is that you are searching for something but you just are not informed educated enough just to know what your looking for. One of those instances where you know "just enough" to be dangerous.And this is the "only" reason I am posting a reply to your search for a" fuel cheater" Soon or later you will find it and if you do you might not get the warning/education so here it is.

 

 

1,4 Dioxane and propylene oxide is the power adders and the oxyigenaters that your on the search /destroy mission for.

 

As propylene will asorb a great ammount of heat and bring oxygen with it you will see aincrease in low end power and the oposite and the high end due to the chill factor, great quanities are needed to show an increase.Basically there are no real gain but instant and short..trust me ... most techs will use "sniffer" to detect this cheat

 

Dioxane is the "posin" your looking for it is a true oxygenator and although it brings increased temps at the low end it dramatically help in the higher rpms .

However dioxane is a "DANGEROUS" carsegentic and what makes it so dangerous and "illegal" is that is asorbed through the skin as well as inhallation.This is dangerous for everybody the person close to it use and the competitors as well. Dioxane is as dangerous after the cumbustion process as before. Most good tech's can catch this cheat with a water test and a "snoe flake" test.. personally if I caught anybody using it I would call the " fEDERAL AUTHORITIES" it is not that hard to get a hold of and there is a certain ammount in everyday fuel we use.

[sliverstang]

First off cuz, This is the first time that Ive posted any question about Toluene. Second there are many people that use it in the cars.CLICK HERE Just for instance. As far as techs and racing goes I just asked a question not where I can use it at riskin getting DQed by a tech. I just wanna know for my personal use because from the websites ive read it would be cheaper to mix toluene with gas to make my own race gas. Thanks for your rude reply though im sure normal members of this fourm can't wait for you to put in your 2cents.

 

ps.. here is another site for you to read up on. CLICK HERE

Edited May 5, 2005 by sliverstang

[quick-z]

[Lepew]

Tolulene is better sniffed than burned.

 

If you increase the octane that just makes the fuel more stable so you can increase comp. right?

[Cotton eyed Joe]

Tolulene is better sniffed than burned.

 

If you increase the octane that just makes the fuel more stable so you can increase comp. right?

364746[/snapback]

Yep.

 

I think money could be better spent on some Sunoco or VP.

[kartracer92]

Stang

 

There were the exact questions asked about toluene under other names on four other related ATV sites, the same day and with questions specific to this I figured there were some connection...I appoligize for my "rudness" if you are not the assume.

[Ducman]

Do a search under my log name and you will find a couple good threads about toluene and xylene. Basically I have found unless you get a really good deal on toluene or xylene, like buying a 55 gal drum from a paint store at a discount, it is typically cheaper to buy race fuel. I have read that it has a higher energy content per unit than gas but I doubt it will be all that noticeable as far as a performance boost. If you are going for lower octane #'s like 95 it is more efficient (need to mix less toluene) and you max out at about 102 octane (50/50 mix with 91 pump fuel). Toluene is 114 octane and I think over $5/gal. One good thing about it is that it is unleaded so you can mix it with pump gas for a turbo or supercharged charged high octane performance tune on a vehicle with cats. On the other hand you can just go out and buy 101 unleaded for $3.65/gal (price I paid for it last week). 110 octane leaded was only $4.70/gal.

[sliverstang]

Stang

 

There were the exact questions asked about toluene under other names on four other related ATV sites, the same day and with questions specific to this I figured there were some connection...I appoligize for my "rudness" if you are not the assume.

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thatz cool man.. Im just lookin into ways to save money.. looks like im lookin up the wrong tree.. thanks for all you guys help.

[05bansh]

Yep.

 

I think money could be better spent on some Sunoco or VP.

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Agree with you there!

[banshdog]

         

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Whats all the crying about? Did someone mix toluene with your visine?

[fastbanshee4u]

If you want to save money ,run avation gace. many people are stuck on being ripped off for race fuel.I run av gas for two years in my shee even up to 210 lbs compression and no problems.Its probally running about $3,00 a gallon now. The air port calls it 100 low lead,but thats designed for high altitude.They tell me its more like 110 octane on the ground.Many car drag racers use it in there big block motors that cost alot more cash than our shees.

[superchicken]

yep 100 ll is the way to go

[wesw]

If you want to save money ,run avation gace. many people are stuck on being ripped off for race fuel.I run av gas for two years in my shee even up to 210 lbs compression and no problems.Its probally running about $3,00 a gallon now. The air port calls it 100 low lead,but thats designed for high altitude.They tell me its more like 110 octane on the ground.Many car drag racers  use it in there big block motors that cost alot more cash than our shees.

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works for me i can get it for 3.01 a gal now went up from 2.83 but shit reg gas is 2.14 now.