Tommygunn Posted September 5, 2013 Report Posted September 5, 2013 went to install my new clutch because last time I rode it, it wanted to stay engaged the entire time. Pulled the old one out and this is what happened. Not sure if it broke before, or while I was taking it out. I just don't know what to do. Going to try to extract it, but not sure if it will work. Has this happened to anyone else? If so, what did you do? Am I in for more work and $$? I'm just ready to finish this thing. Quote
JUSTWANNARACE Posted September 5, 2013 Report Posted September 5, 2013 That it the clutch adjustor its not broke but does look a little worn. I would suggest replacing it with the pancake bearing style. There should be a ball behind that and a rod behind the ball to the actuator Quote
Tommygunn Posted September 5, 2013 Author Report Posted September 5, 2013 So the ball and rod is broke off inside? I was thinking it was threads. Any ideas on how to get it out so I can install a new one? Quote
J-Madd Posted September 5, 2013 Report Posted September 5, 2013 You can try a magnet and might get lucky. If the ball won't come out you have to split the cases and pull the tranny shaft out. Sometimes it won't come out at all. And you have to buy a new tranny shaft. Quote
Tommygunn Posted September 5, 2013 Author Report Posted September 5, 2013 get a manual I do need to get a manual. I'll order one when I order the new part. I'll just feel better when I get the broken pieces out Quote
Tommygunn Posted September 5, 2013 Author Report Posted September 5, 2013 You can try a magnet and might get lucky. If the ball won't come out you have to split the cases and pull the tranny shaft out. Sometimes it won't come out at all. And you have to buy a new tranny shaft. This is what I was afraid of. I'll try a magnet tomorrow. what about a left hand drill bit if the magnet doesn't work? Quote
Pastrykiller Posted September 5, 2013 Report Posted September 5, 2013 Sometimes you can take a punch and hammer to knock it loose. Don't pound on it too much or you will bend the actuator arm inside the case. I just went thru this and replaced the shitty stock one with a pancake. Quote
oldskool Posted September 5, 2013 Report Posted September 5, 2013 You can download a E-manual from here. You need to see what you are dealing with. If you lean bike/motor over, the ball should roll out. Lean it more and the rod should slide out also. If it doesn't then you have a problem. Good luck Quote
sheerider11 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Posted September 5, 2013 Silly question, have you tried to flip the motor on its side and have them come out. I feel like your over complicating things. Or did it weld its self in place? Quote
Jereme6655 Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 the left handed drill bit will not work. Listen to what we are saying.......it is not threaded. it is a solid "push" style rod. It is basically a spacer that goes from the actuator arm to the ball bearing. Its just a spacer.........no threads, no nothing. If it has no threads then it wont be able to be extracted with a left hand drill bit. This problem is caused by someone who doesn't know what they're doing with a clutch setup. You cannot hold the clutch in and coast for a long distance on these setups without a pancake bearing. Get one. They're about $40-50. Quote
RagunCajun Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) You can split the cases upside down and leave the juggs in place. It's just a little tough making sure the rings/pistons go into the juggs good. Also make sure the shift forks go in the right spot. since you are new, id would just split the cases like normal with the juggs off. If your ball and/or rod is welded and you cant get it out, you do indeed need to split the cases. Regardless, like said get a pancake bearing. IMO it should be in every banshee. edit* if the ball has ANY imperfections, it needs to be replaced. Same goes for the rod. Fictions causes heat and that will be a big problem. Edited September 6, 2013 by RagunCajun Quote
Tommygunn Posted September 6, 2013 Author Report Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) Thanks for all the info. I bought this thing from a guy for cheap. It was rode hard and ragged out.. Rode it once then tore it down. I haven't got a chance to try it yet but I will tonight. I didn't put a lot of thought into it when I first noticed what had happened. I just assumed it was threaded. I'm determined to get it out without splitting the cases, hopefully I can just turn the bike on its side, tap it, and have it fall right out. Thanks for the link on the manual. I'm about to download it right now Edited September 6, 2013 by Tommygunn Quote
n2otoofast4u Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 You can split the cases upside down and leave the juggs in place. It's just a little tough making sure the rings/pistons go into the juggs good. Also make sure the shift forks go in the right spot. since you are new, id would just split the cases like normal with the juggs off. If your ball and/or rod is welded and you cant get it out, you do indeed need to split the cases. Regardless, like said get a pancake bearing. IMO it should be in every banshee. edit* if the ball has ANY imperfections, it needs to be replaced. Same goes for the rod. Fictions causes heat and that will be a big problem. How do you get the pistons out with the motor upside down and the bottom case off? Quote
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