Colby Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 if you want an auto. transmission, everything else is FAR behind the Allison 6-speed .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotta_goatsfast Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 False.... the 5r110 will handle about 70hp more than an Allison 1000 of the same era. As for the new transmissions, if anyone is familiar with H&S performance and their live dyno session "BREAKING POINT" you'll see that the stock Ford 6r140 transmission "slipped" at 884rwhp and 1660ft/lbs where as the new Allison (also stock) slipped at 568rwhp. While this sample size is extremely small, its hard to argue that every other transmission is FAR behind an Allison when the Ford 6r140 held 316 hp more on the same dyno. However, the Allison 1000 has a big aftermarket support so they can be "built" bulletproof. Best advice I can give to anyone considering owning a diesel is the advice that was given to me... drive all three brands with different options and choose which truck YOU like the most. But make sure you have a little money left over because I've seen 1 ford, 1 gmc, and 1 dodge sitting next to each other in a 3 bay diesel performance shop all getting head gaskets at the same time. I should have snapped a picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colby Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) he is looking for a towing vehicle, not a 800/1600 race vehicle.. and for towing, the Allison IS far beyond the other transmissions, I drove all three brands before i made my decision (all 3 were 3/4 ton, the D max was Ext. cab, the other 2 were 4 door, all Automatics).. the results ... Best Ride - Ford Quietest Engine - Chevy 4x4 Lock-in quickest - Chevy Transmission(went up and down some fairly steep hills, stopped halfway up, without a trailer) - Chevy Cheapest $ Wise - Dodge Most Expensive $ Wise - Ford Cheapest Extra Warranty - Chevy($1000 extra gave a 7 year/84k mile bumper to bumper warranty) Fastest Glow Plug warm-up - Chevy (around 50 degrees) Dealership that seemed to want to make a good deal- Chevy Edited August 31, 2013 by Colby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 NV5600 FTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey83 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 My daddy-in-law has a 2008 chevy 6.0 gas and I have pulled 20-25k lbs with it. How much towing do you plan on doing? If its not much I would say get a gas truck!! Diesels are very very exspensive to maintain and repair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevota84 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 A 5r is at least as good as any of the Allison's. All of the Dodge autos will barely take stock power and they're all basically the same tranny until 07. Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manny 2004 banshee Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Something else to take into consideration. I've noticed the dodge's drop price substantially, and after a couple years hold no where near the same value as the Chevy/ford. If you plan on selling a couple years down the road and don't want to lose too much money, I'd avoid dodge. A lot of people still ask in the 20's for early to mid 2000's for their Chevys/fords Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fappy'97 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 LLY/LBZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinklerman Posted September 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 My daddy-in-law has a 2008 chevy 6.0 gas and I have pulled 20-25k lbs with it. How much towing do you plan on doing? If its not much I would say get a gas truck!! Diesels are very very exspensive to maintain and repair. I tow 5-6k daily,,approx 50-100miles,sometimes more..not much i know. Occasionally i need to tow 8-10k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey83 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Its enough to warrant a 3/4 ton truck without a doubt. Its always nice having the power of a diesel. It just sucked buying parts for them. Or even spending $80-100 for stuff to change the oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey83 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 And I have no idea how people get 18+mpg consistently on any diesel. My very best out of all 3 was 5.9 cummins that averaged 15 on one tank on the highway empty. Most of mine got 11-13 empty and as low as 6 loaded heavy. My 2007.5 cummins 6.7 showed 18-20 on display but that was a joke. It did the same as all my others +/- a tiny bit. My 5.3 chevy half ton wont get 18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colby Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) my D-max gets 18 empy(with 3.73 gears) Edited September 1, 2013 by Colby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandking Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 7.3 gets 14.5 city and 18+hwy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 7.3 gets 14.5 city and 18+hwy mines been getting about 14 towing and 18-19 highway. only had it a month and my first diesel but happy with my purchase and as for towing no way id get a gasser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinklerman Posted September 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Its enough to warrant a 3/4 ton truck without a doubt. Its always nice having the power of a diesel. It just sucked buying parts for them. Or even spending $80-100 for stuff to change the oil. Right now for service/spraying stuff i run two 1ton Dodge vans with 360's and 4.11 gears. They actually tow good being so long and heavy,plus everything can be locked up and out of the rain/weather. But i think for the 8-10k stuff a 1ton diesel would be far superior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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