cmbarker1979 Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) Newb to the site. I need to know the right way to go because I'm only going to by pipes once. Motor is BONE Stock, would a pair of inframe shears be the way to go. I plan on having a port job and 4mill soon but not for a little while. So my question is should I go with the shears or the T-5. will i get the same power out of my shears as I would with T-5's on a stock motor or will it hold me back alot untill i have porting. Any info would be great. I just want to do it once and right this time unlike my drag 450 lol Edited January 13, 2011 by cmbarker1979 Quote
06specialedition Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 Between the two pipes...On a ported 4mm the Shearers will run way harder IMO. I run CPI's, but have always been a fan of Shearers as well Quote
cmbarker1979 Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) Between the two pipes...On a ported 4mm the Shearers will run way harder IMO. I run CPI's, but have always been a fan of Shearers as well Thanks! would the shears hold me way back over the t5 on a all stock motor or will it not be to noticeable. Just asking because I still want it to run good untill I have the porting done. Thanks for anymore info. Or wold a pair of CPI be the way to go. Edited January 13, 2011 by cmbarker1979 Quote
06specialedition Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 Thanks! would the shears hold me way back over the t5 on a all stock motor or will it not be to noticeable. Just asking because I still want it to run good untill I have the porting done. Thanks for anymore info. Or wold a pair of CPI be the way to go. I ran my CPI's when i had a stock motor with a few bolt ons and it ran great. Alot of my friends I ride with run CPI's with just a cool head and filters...they run well. Of course porting will help ALOT....but I don't think they will hold you back. I've never personally ran Shearers on a stock shee though, but I'm sure you cant go wrong. Quote
locogato11283 Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 I would seriously consider looking into the new Sniper pipes, produced by Sniper Racing Products. Quote
cmbarker1979 Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Posted January 13, 2011 I would seriously consider looking into the new Sniper pipes, produced by Sniper Racing Products. Yeah those pipes are sick. But the price makes me sick $795 ouch! If i had the extra coin I would. Any insight on who would be the best site sponcer to have my stock cyl ported. Thanks again guys Quote
Justgotabanshee Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 I would seriously consider looking into the new Sniper pipes, produced by Sniper Racing Products. Those are inframe drag pipes.... i think he wants more of a agressive trail or sand dunes...if you want the 4mm crank with ported cylinders i think you would get more power out of the t5's just my opinoin... Every rider has their own thoughts Quote
cmbarker1979 Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Posted January 13, 2011 Those are inframe drag pipes.... i think he wants more of a agressive trail or sand dunes...if you want the 4mm crank with ported cylinders i think you would get more power out of the t5's just my opinoin... Every rider has their own thoughts Yes I ride at APEX and DUMONT all the time so it will be for Very aggressive trail riding and hill shooting. I want to keep it so i can still ride trails but hold my own at the hills. More on the pipes anyone else with some insight or personal experience Quote
locogato11283 Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 Those are inframe drag pipes.... i think he wants more of a agressive trail or sand dunes...if you want the 4mm crank with ported cylinders i think you would get more power out of the t5's just my opinoin... Every rider has their own thoughts He is considering Shearers which are drag pipes. And no, you will get more power with the Snipers or Shearers than the T-5's. That's a fact. I know that the Snipers are expensive, but I think they are going to be worth every penny based on the information given by Jim and Gary. Quote
Hilarious Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 Yes I ride at APEX and DUMONT all the time so it will be for Very aggressive trail riding and hill shooting. I want to keep it so i can still ride trails but hold my own at the hills. More on the pipes anyone else with some insight or personal experience cpis shearers will rev a little past your cpis and not come on as soon. i like the t-5s too, the cpis feel a little torquier (sp) to me. Quote
06specialedition Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 Any insight on who would be the best site sponcer to have my stock cyl ported. Wildcard Racing, HRJ, FAST, M&M, Redline, Passion... Any site sponsor on here does A+ work. I've been extremely happy with my Wildcard ported shee. Brandon and Shay are awesome to work with. Quote
Wicked ATV Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 If your looking for a all around Fun to ride Banshee get the T-5's they work for many applications as well with a +4mm crank. Priced around 550.00 with chrome you can't beat that. As well resale the value on your pipes are great as long in clean shape if you ever decided to build a larger CC motor over 403cc with stock cylinders or with larger cylinders such as 421cc. Then I'd suggest the CPI's over the sheers. I've tested many different systems and different combination and i notice the power band blends in cleaner with a CPI with a larger cylinder such as a cub and larger CC's. As well fit meant The CPI's fit a little better than Sheers from my experience. You got to look at it this way. If you building a drag bike then build it all at one time. If you building a Awesome trail bike for all around use keep your power band lower. No need to rev a motor pass 10k and waste it away at the back wheels if you have no throttle control. as well With the larger pipes you have that empty power feeling till the RPM really kick in on the larger volume pipes on small bore cylinders 64-66.50mm. So in my opinion between Sheer and Toomey's go with the Toomey T-5's. You'll love the fitment and as well they clearance around the motor and away from your knees. Even thou they all get close the T-5's have a safer space area from burning you and as well a lot easier access to get your spark plugs. you can make a nice Mild trail 62-65hp with 38-40ib TQ rear wheel Horsepower with T-5's Ported stock cylinder, stock carbs, little other minor bolt ons and you'll be happy with the end results. Running still if wanted with 91-93 Octane With a Power band between 5500-9800 RPM. just remember Your not looking to build a formula one race car to trail ride or sand dune. The lower the power band can come in the less violent you can make the bike on the power band. Also consider your life span of your motor as well... The lower the RPM's the longer you Crank and Bores will last as well.... That's what i noticed mostly from riders. They are looking for that low end grunt on a banshee which can be achieved with the proper build. Thou some build them not knowing the proper set ups and that's why they switch to 4-strokes because they build the wrong set up and end up winging there motors to the moon like 125's and just don't feel comfortable or go threw motors. I'm sure 90% of the builders will agree as well. Hope you find the info helpful. Quote
cmbarker1979 Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Posted January 13, 2011 So in my opinion between Sheer and Toomey's go with the Toomey T-5's. You'll love the fitment and as well they clearance around the motor and away from your knees. Even thou they all get close the T-5's have a safer space area from burning you and as well a lot easier access to get your spark plugs. you can make a nice Mild trail 62-65hp with 38-40ib TQ rear wheel Horsepower with T-5's Ported stock cylinder, stock carbs, little other minor bolt ons and you'll be happy with the end results. Running still if wanted with 91-93 Octane With a Power band between 5500-9800 RPM. just remember Your not looking to build a formula one race car to trail ride or sand dune. The lower the power band can come in the less violent you can make the bike on the power band. Also consider your life span of your motor as well... The lower the RPM's the longer you Crank and Bores will last as well.... I should of left my drag 450 a trail bike and the shee the drag bike LOL. Thanks I think you nailed it on the head that's exactly what I'm looking for Quote
Justgotabanshee Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 He is considering Shearers which are drag pipes. And no, you will get more power with the Snipers or Shearers than the T-5's. That's a fact. I know that the Snipers are expensive, but I think they are going to be worth every penny based on the information given by Jim and Gary. i agree with wicked atv...look at his response he explained it way better than me Quote
cmbarker1979 Posted January 14, 2011 Author Report Posted January 14, 2011 Ok i just picked up a new pair of CPI's for 300 so i had to by them. anyways I know this is the worst question to ask but what would be a good starting point for jetting with these pipes on a basically stock shee. Thanks Quote
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