both of those links take me to the homepage so im not sure what ur talkin about. i had a swingarm upfor sale a long time ago that was a different one. maybe i had this one listed lower, im not sure..im not worried about gettin rid of it and takin an ass reaming. id rather sit on it for 3 years than sel lit for nothing. this arm is a high quality one. VERY heavy duty, unlike that thing u posted earlier. if u want it make a reasonable offer. 250 shipped is not reasonable for a swingarm like this...