That was my opinion too....until I found these... Not sure where they come from, got them at LS, ok. "King's Paddle Tires - Turbo Paddle" They're just 8 paddle,...figured I'd go with 8 instead of 9 with the -2 arm. They are the shit, very good construction, looks--are a bit wider than skats, & I was told at the shop there that they hook up just as good & wear a hell of a lot better than skats, and they run on avg. $100 cheaper. But for fronts,...I'll stick with my skat mohawlks. I still have my old 9pdl skat haulers--now on the g/f's shee, they are damn good too--if you got the money & want the name, I'd definately recommend them also.