the tire thing is about dead but just to clear it up one last time. i asked a few Utah shops for recommendations. i had no idea what tires i needed. 12 extremes (which are usually 76ro or so) was not recommended and advised against , given my setup and the hill etc etc. just like anyone else in the game, it may take a few different sets of rubber to sort it out. i may start a thread of whats going on and a brief description. just a bunch of over priced junk anyways