Holyman

I've got some. do you need the metal floor boards or the plastic heel guards or both?

$150. I could go higher but I need to see if they are all brown and purple where they attach to the jugs.

You ain't layin' your deviate hands on me pervert. Filthy Sodomite. And that's my final word on that.

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(1 Peter 1:13-16) 13 Hence brace up YOUR minds for activity, keep YOUR senses completely; set YOUR hope upon the undeserved kindness that is to be brought to YOU at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 14 As obedient children, quit being fashioned according to the desires YOU formerly had in YOUR ignorance, 15 but, in accord with the Holy One who called YOU, do YOU also become holy yourselves in all [YOUR] conduct, 16 because it is written: "YOU must be holy, because I am holy." So when I gave up on following the rest of the world which does not have Gods favor, and quit celebrating Pagan festivals, and stopped my occult practices and quit being an abusive drunk, and fornicator, and when I shed the rage I felt for people who wronged me, and instead dedicated myself to the accurate knowledge of what the bible actually says, and when I became an "obedient child", I became holy. I am not God, I am dedicated to God. And because I try every day to conduct myself in a Holy way, I concider myself Holy. Interestingly enough, the name I chose for this forum was based on a comment from a friend of mine. She called me "Preacher Dave". But since that was too long, I put down Holyman. As the scripture above shows, anyone who professes to conduct themselves as God has instructed, MUST be Holy. Do you know the definition of the word Holy?

KGL you are asking way too much. His poor bible can't take being kicked around the floor while 04 hopes for the right scipture to jump out at him.

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Sorry for the double post but I need to find this guy. Someone sent me 2 kickers to rebuild and I've had them done and packed to go out for over a week. I even sent an email to the guy I thought sent me the kickers but I got no reply. Who ever owns these kickers needs to contact me asap so I can get them mailed out!!! Send me an email at [email protected]

Someone sent me 2 kickers to rebuild and I've had them done and packed to go out for over a week. I even sent an email to the guy I thought sent me the kickers but I got no reply. Who ever owns these kickers needs to contact me asap so I can get them mailed out!!! Send me an email at [email protected]

When did I ever say or imply that I quit my job out of convenience? Where did you even get an idea like that? So you think I quit my job so I could have more time to NOT celebrate the hilodays? And the service I give to god is exactly that... service to god. I do not serve god with the hopes of being recognized by ANY human especially those who are hateful like you. I follow the direction of the bible... (Matthew 6:1-5) 6 "Take good care not to practice YOUR righteousness in front of men in order to be observed by them; otherwise YOU will have no reward with YOUR Father who is in the heavens. 2 Hence when you go making gifts of mercy, do not blow a trumpet ahead of you, just as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be glorified by men. Truly I say to YOU, They are having their reward in full. 3 But you, when making gifts of mercy, do not let your left hand know what your right is doing, 4 that your gifts of mercy may be in secret; then your Father who is looking on in secret will repay you. 5 "Also, when YOU pray, YOU must not be as the hypocrites; because they like to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the broad ways to be visible to men. Truly I say to YOU, They are having their reward in full. What is happening with you is not seeing the difference between works of the flesh and works of the spirit. Here they are again... your works... (Galatians 5:19-21) 19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, and they are fornication, uncleanness, loose conduct, 20 idolatry, practice of spiritism, enmities, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, contentions, divisions, sects, 21 envies, drunken bouts, revelries, and things like these. As to these things I am forewarning YOU, the same way as I did forewarn YOU, that those who practice such things will not inherit God's kingdom. and the works I try each and every day to perform for the glory of GOD... (Galatians 5:22-26) 22 On the other hand, the fruitage of the spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith, 23 mildness, self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Moreover, those who belong to Christ Jesus impaled the flesh together with its passions and desires. 25 If we are living by spirit, let us go on walking orderly also by spirit. 26 Let us not become egotistical, stirring up competition with one another, envying one another. No matter what you think the bible says or how far you think I am missing the mark, God is the one to decide if a person is serving in spirit and truth. And it is easy to see whether a person wants to know about god because they will have a deep and meaningful relationship with him. Not just knowing his name {which you refuse to acknowledge even though I showed it to you in your own King James bible} and who he is {which you don't} but also knowing what makes him happy {which you don't}, what he stands for {which you don't}. In short you have no idea who it is you claim to depend on for salvation. I used to deal with people like you all the time when I did insurance claims. People like you would call in a claim for something that was rotten {which is NOT by definition a sudden and accidental loss. Thus it is not covered by insurance} and once it was explained that there is no coverage for that loss, they loadly protest "That's what I've been buying insurance for!" When it really comes down to it, many people buy insurance because they think they are "covered". When in fact there are many things that are NOT covered. The difference between a person who calls in a covered loss and one who calls in a NON covered loss is usually because they either knew what was covered or did not know what was covered before they made the call. You are like the person who makes assumptions based on what you have heard instead of reading the information and finding out what is really going to be covered. And when the time comes, if you get rejected {that's God's choice not mine}, you will have no excuse for your ignorance. If you were to stand before God, could you honestly say that you have read the bible all the way thru before formulating your opinions about what is in the bible? That is between you and him. Just remember that... (2 Timothy 3:16-4:5) 16 All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work. 4 I solemnly charge you before God and Christ Jesus, who is destined to judge the living and the dead, and by his manifestation and his kingdom, 2 preach the word, be at it urgently in favorable season, in troublesome season, reprove, reprimand, exhort, with all long-suffering and [art of] teaching. 3 For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories. 5 You, though, keep your senses in all things, suffer evil, do [the] work of an evangelizer, fully accomplish your ministry. And that the bible is designed so that everyone no matter how retarded they may be can... (John 8:31-32) 31 And so Jesus went on to say to the Jews that had believed him: "If YOU remain in my word, YOU are really my disciples, 32 and YOU will know the truth, and the truth will set YOU free.". . . Now I'm going to bed. rj is going to need a week to catch up to where we are here and I'd hate to leave him behind. Even though his beliefs are similar to yours, he has a humble heart and is really interested in what the bible has to say and not just pulling answers out of the air like you do.

I have elevated Jesus Christ, mankinds saviour, in every way possible. But I will not elevate him beyond his rightful position. He is not almighty God, and NEVER even came close to desiring such a lofty position. Jesus is the son of God and thus beneath almighty God. So if you want to elevate Jesus to a position beyond the one that God gave him, you stand in direct opposition to God himself. Who do you think you are to decide where God should place his son? No-one challenges God's position and survives. And here again, you cannot use the bible to prove your assertion that Jesus is almighty God because you don't have a clue what it says.

hmmm so you can't use the bible to prove me wrong. So what are you relying on??? must be your inflated self opinion. You can't prove me wrong using the bible because I have adhered to the bible like Paul did when he was in the same situation... (Ephesians 6:10-20) 10 Finally, go on acquiring power in [the] Lord and in the mightiness of his strength. 11 Put on the complete suit of armor from God that YOU may be able to stand firm against the machinations of the Devil; 12 because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places. 13 On this account take up the complete suit of armor from God, that YOU may be able to resist in the wicked day and, after YOU have done all things thoroughly, to stand firm. 14 Stand firm, therefore, with YOUR loins girded about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and with YOUR feet shod with the equipment of the good news of peace. 16 Above all things, take up the large shield of faith, with which YOU will be able to quench all the wicked one's burning missiles. 17 Also, accept the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the spirit, that is, God's word, 18 while with every form of prayer and supplication YOU carry on prayer on every occasion in spirit. And to that end keep awake with all constancy and with supplication in behalf of all the holy ones, 19 also for me, that ability to speak may be given me with the opening of my mouth, with freeness of speech to make known the sacred secret of the good news, 20 for which I am acting as an ambassador in chains; that I may speak in connection with it with boldness as I ought to speak. And KGL those are all good points. I knew you were not coming to my defense out of some deep appreciation you have for my views. You have your own views and I have mine and because of our past discussions, I know you would not be moved to somehow start bragging that we are somehow in complete agreement Obviously 04 feels that it's not enough for a person to know what they are talking about... they also need someone to back them up because they can't defend their own beliefs.

hmmm another attempt at evading using the bible. again the bible speaks of you... (2 Timothy 3:5) 5 having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power; and from these turn away.

That must be why you think you can drop the bible on the floor and quote a random page or 2 and think you are teaching And with nonsense like this, you would need a heck of alot of hope. Because what it says makes no sense what so ever. Oh are you going to go back and edit it like have done so many times before?

So you're saying that the whole reason Jesus came to earth was to draw people to the word of God? What scriptures do you have to support that?

So what are you saying is the purpose of Christ?

To show the kind of hypocrite you are, you can't even live up to your word for one day. Are you now reading my posts again? And again you posted a bunch of senseless hate. Where is your Christian behaviour? What scriptures have you posted? In what way have you elevated Jesus? By your lies that you are no longer involved in this thread? By your adherance to his loving behaviour? Have you stated an issue you need me to reply to? Or is it more of your demonic hatred you are spouting? I never said I was perfect and I never said I was better than anyone. You claim that I am trying to earn salvation but I never said that or even implied that. So who is wrong here? You have proven yourself a liar from the very first word you typed right down to this very second, you are still the same liar. But in your twisted imagination, you are saved so go ahead and lie like Satan himself. Satan has no idea what the bible means either. So at least you are among friends. So what are the Gospels anyway? Do you even know that much?

Did you ever get a figure on shipping from the states?

First of all 04, I don't need you to explain my beliefs. You can't even explain your own. rj... as usual, you have shown that you have some depth of understanding. Far more that 04. I agree with your first scripture {1John 1:5-7} that Jesus cleanses us from all sin and we need to humble ourselves to accept that. On your second scripture {1John 2:1,2}, I ask you who he had to satisfy? And which scriptures you found to show that we would be absolved from punishment. On your third scripture {1John 2:3-6}, I accept that it was for the benefit of those in bible times. But why do you feel that Christians today no longer need to adhere to the counsel here? What has changed? 4th scripture I agree 100% {1John 4:1-6} #5) 1John 5:1-3 Agree again. #6) 1John 5:4-13 again, nothing of conflict there. And since I'd hate to be accused of not reading scriptures in context, let's read verse 14... (1 John 5:14) 14 And this is the confidence that we have toward him, that, no matter what it is that we ask according to his will, he hears us. See the key is whether it is God's will. We can't just assume that we can live the live of a Godless person and then because we call out to Jesus we will be OK. My question then is... what does it mean by "has the son" 1John 5:12.

Actually my answer is no. I don't expect to go to heaven {where 04 believes he is entitled to go} and there is no such thing as a burning Hell. So when I die, I will be dead and buried like everyone else in history. And it's up to God to decide if he wants to "grace" me with resurrection.

No not really. 04 thinks he will be in heaven when he dies and I hope that I will be remembered by God when I die. I will not presume to say how, or if God will reward or not reward. One thing is for sure, none of us will be roasting in hell. 04's ME ME ME attitude is evident thru out. Here's another example... .04... You have slandered me but you have not humiliated me. If you could come up with some scriptures to back your beliefs, I would gladly be humbled by the scriptures. But instead of using the bible, you are attempting to "school" me as if I would need to humble myself to you in order to learn the bible. You are exactly like the Pharisees. You want the glory for yourself instead of giving the glory to God. When are you going to open your bible? When will you see that your faith is worthless because you want to be glorified in front of people for what you know. (John 12:42-43) 42

On Seasame Street {I'm going waaaay back here} they used to have a skit called one of these is not like the other. And they would have 4 things on the screen like 3 bananas and 1 crow bar. It was designed to help children identify the obvious differences between what something looks like and what something really is. Here's an example of someone who claims to be honest... Yet 3 hours and 12 minutes later he posts again. He has quoted random scripture to try to say how different he is and he even quoted Luke 18:9-14 which says... 9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are , extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. 12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. 13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted. Now with that scripture in mind let's look at what 04 says about KGL... The fact is that even if KGL is a Satanist, he is humble enough to see that 04 is not supporting the bible. And I will gladly associate with those who have an open heart to what the bible says to do. Even Jesus associated with the publicans {BTW since 04 will never answer this... a publican is a tax collector. Tax collectors were hated at the time because they were told to bring in "x" amount of money for the tax and anything they got above that they could keep. So they often abused people for MUCH more than was actually owed} prostitutes and other sinners in an effort to educate them about God. Because he spent so much time teaching these "lowly" ones, the "higher ups" often accused Jesus of being a drunk and or demonised... (Mark 2:16-17) 16 But the scribes of the Pharisees, when they saw he was eating with the sinners and tax collectors, began saying to his disciples: "Does he eat with the tax collectors and sinners?" 17 Upon hearing this Jesus said to them: "Those who are strong do not need a physician, but those who are ill do. I came to call, not righteous people, but sinners." (Matthew 11:18-19) 18 Correspondingly, John came neither eating nor drinking, yet people say, 'He has a demon'; 19 the Son of man did come eating and drinking, still people say, 'Look! A man gluttonous and given to drinking wine, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.' All the same, wisdom is proved righteous by its works." (John 8:47-50) 47 He that is from God listens to the sayings of God. This is why YOU do not listen, because YOU are not from God." 48 In answer the Jews said to him: "Do we not rightly say, You are a Sa

Well now that that is over, I would like explain a few things that most people can't seem to get straight. #1 God's will. God's will {will is the same as his desire} is... (1 Timothy 2:3, 4) . . . This is fine and acceptable in the sight of our Savior, God, 4 whose will is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth. Interestingly enough, accurate knowledge is is linked with salvation. And co-incidentally one of the biggest mistakes many people have been lead to believe is that Jesus is God. But that same scripture continues... (1 Timothy 2:5-6) 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all-[this is] what is to be witnessed to at its own particular times. Not only was Jesus NOT God almighty, as a human like the rest of us, he wasn't even close. He was also not a proxy, he was a ransom. A proxy is a substitute. Someone who stands in for you when you are not there. A Ransom is a price paid to release someone from captivity. Jesus paid the debt that Adam incurred. That debt was to God. God gave Adam, a perfect man, the opportunity to live forever as long as he obeyed God's simple laws. Because he chose not to, he sold his offspring into slavery to sin... (Romans 5:12) 12 That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned-. (John 8:34) 34 Jesus answered them: "Most truly I say to YOU, Every doer of sin is a slave of sin. Since Adam gave each of us the birth defect of sin, the only way to be redeemed from sin is for another perfect man to provide it. All the defective people in the world could never compensate for the debt of sin. Like someone who needs a heart transplant, all the defective hearts in the world could never provide the needed help. Based on God's own laws of an eye for an eye, and the laws on redeeming someone from slavery, the payment for a debt or compensation for a loss must be equal. God sent his son to live a faithful life to balance the scales for the offspring of Adam. Because Jesus did remain obedient to God, he paid the ransom. But since everyone is a sinner, the only way to benefit from the ransom is to understand who paid the ransom, and have a faith {remember faith is hope} . It must not be a blind faith, it has to be a faith based on the fact that Jesus paid for your chance to get BACK the everlasting life that Adam threw away, and that he as a human was raised from the dead, thereby proving that his sacrifice had effectively reversed the sin we inherited from Adam. (1 John 2:1-6) 2 My little children, I am writing YOU these things that YOU may not commit a sin. And yet, if anyone does commit a sin, we have a helper with the Father, Jesus Christ, a righteous one. 2 And he is a propitiatory sacrifice for our sins, yet not for ours only but also for the whole world's. 3 And by this we have the knowledge that we have come to know him, namely, if we continue observing his commandments. 4 He that says: "I have come to know him," and yet is not observing his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in this [person]. 5 But whoever does observe his word, truthfully in this [person] the love of God has been made perfect. By this we have the knowledge that we are in union with him. 6 He that says he remains in union with him is under obligation himself also to go on walking just as that one walked. This scripture shows that Jesus' sacrifice was propitiatory... or one of atonement or to reconcile or bring back together. It was not as the "Passion" movie suggests... that Jesus was just going to stand in for you and take a severe beating instead of you. It is a sacrifice to pay a debt. This scripture also shows that a person who professes to be a christian needs to also FOLLOW chirst continually and not just some fleeting emotional rush. The second thing to consider is that if God was willing to allow his firstborn son to take the lowly position of a human to give humans the hope of getting back something they lost, why would he be so eager to torture those who never knew anything about his son. Wouldn't it make sense to give everyone the chance to take advantage of the sacrifice that he so generously provided? It's not a handout, it's a gift to those who appreciate it and trust in its value. These are simple facts that most who claim to know the bible do not comprehend. It's so simple that bible even says that... (John 8:31-32) 31 And so Jesus went on to say to the Jews that had believed him: "If YOU remain in my word, YOU are really my disciples, 32 and YOU will know the truth, and the truth will set YOU free." An immeasurable freedom both of mind and spirit can be had if you know the truth of the bible and live by that truth. So don't let the stories of burning in Hell keep you from learning about God and what makes HIM happy. Most people feel that there is a force much greater than humans out there somewhere. There is. Just be assured that the God of the bible is not the hate filled monster that many "religious" people make him out to be.

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You may aspire to move closer to God's will but your aspirations require no effort on your part and I doubt you can show in the bible what God's will is. (John 14:12) . . .. 12 Most truly I say to YOU, He that exercises faith in me, that one also will do the works that I do; and he will do works greater than these, because I am going my way to the Father. (James 2:14-22) 14 Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if a certain one says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If a brother or a sister is in a naked state and lacking the food sufficient for the day, 16 yet a certain one of YOU says to them: "Go in peace, keep warm and well fed," but YOU do not give them the necessities for [their] body, of what benefit is it? 17 Thus, too, faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself. 18 Nevertheless, a certain one will say: "You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith apart from the works, and I shall show you my faith by my works." 19 You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder. 20 But do you care to know, O empty man, that faith apart from works is inactive? 21 Was not Abraham our father declared righteous by works after he had offered up Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 You behold that [his] faith worked along with his works and by [his] works [his] faith was perfected, (1 Peter 2:12) 12 Maintain YOUR conduct fine among the nations, that, in the thing in which they are speaking against YOU as evildoers, they may as a result of YOUR fine works of which they are eyewitnesses glorify God in the day for [his] inspection. Can you read the bible and NOT see that a person MUST demonstrate by their actions {works} that they serve God??? Maybe you don't get it yet. You are insignificant in this whole discussion. You drop the bible on the floor read a bunch of random verses, develop your own theories, about what God wants and then somehow think I'm competing with you The only reason I have continued on in this discussion is because there ARE people who have never really thought about there beliefs and have now had the chance to compare the contrived pagan beliefs you adhere to and what the bible says. The only time you open the bible is to drop it on the floor and hope that a new understanding pops up. Which it apparently has with your recent adjustment on repentance. You say that you have seen little of my demonstration of the fruitage of the spirit. Yet again I am not doing anything to try to impress you. You say I don't talk about Jesus enough. Do you want me to read you a story about Jesus? What you don't know who Jesus is? Is there anyone here who has not heard of Jesus? What else needs to be said about Jesus. Well, I guess the stuff you didn't know about Jesus... He is the SON of God, NOT God himself, He did not ALWAYS exist, he was created and is subordinate to his father. He PREACHED every day of his life to people with no spirituality and told them that REPENTANCE was necessary to gain salvation. He did not say get spiritual and some repentance will grow on you. He condemned the religious hypocrites who thought it was OK to be JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD and still be in God's favor. He died to be a RANSOM not a proxy. There is a difference. He said that anyone who would follow him would DAILY follow Jesus... (Luke 9:23) 23 Then he went on to say to all: "If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake day after day and follow me continually. Not just when you feel like having a holiday. You have not yet ONCE found a scripture to support the selection of one man over another in politics... do you not understand that the bible says to stay free from the world??? You have not once found a scripture to support your pagan rituals of christmas and easter. There is NOT ONE scipture to support having ANY birthday rememberances of ANYONE including Jesus. And hypocrites who claim to serve God but continue to act like the rest of the world are CONDEMNED in the bible. The real Jesus is not the weakling you show hanging on a cross, he is not the helpless baby in a barn, he is not the all forgiving wimp that that forgives everyone for everything because that's his job. Jesus is a mighty King, the Son of God, the reflection of God in all his strength. But you make him out to be some disgusting sissy that shuffles around forgiving everyone no matter how bad they are. The fact is, you don't want to know about the real Jesus. You want the one that you can hang in the living room to make you feel that no matter how much wrong you do, it'll be ok. You worship a symbol of what you think God is. You don't have a hint of a clue as to who God really is. And every time you promote something that is NOT FOUND IN THE BIBLE, you spit in the face of the real Jesus that you claim to care so deeply for. My suggestion to you is to get off of the drugs you are obviously on, shut off the computer and spend a year reading the bible. MAYBE you'll get a clue then. AMEN!