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I did this same mod a few years ago. Worked great, I got more ground clearance with the smaller rotor and you get to use a dual piston rear caliper. I would suggest swapping out the 250R caliper though, because they are getting harder and harder to find and they are expensive when they are in good shape. I know the new YFZ's use the dual piston rear caliper, and I'd bet there's more of them on the market compared to the old R calipers.

Yeah you can't take LordTrevorton too seriously, I'm sure he's was just bustin' balls having a good time. Make sure ya watch KingTrevorton's newest Youtube video, the last two hill climbs he does are INSANE. If you ever seen the Huevos where Jason Dunkleburger jumps down the hill, Don climbs up the same hill. Its steep and there's old timbers sticking out of the hill.

Trail rider, do you have the Bill Ballance Razr's on your Banshee or was that your brother that had em on his quad ? I guess Ballance ran his signature model tires for some of last season and he's prolly running them again this season. (he should prolly switch back the winning tire combo ) Im also thinking the 22's might be a good size tire if your not a very aggressive trail rider. For example, when we go out riding and we race around the trails as fast as we can. I wonder how many guys out there are aggressive trail 'racing', and how many guys just ride at a good pace and are not as aggressive. I'd guess that most guys are not racing around the trails and more guys are just out for a good, fun ride and I think these guys could go either way with the rear tire size, the 20 or the 22's would work fine for em. I think the guys who like to 'put the hammer down' and race around with your buddies, would be far better off using the sportier 20 inch size. I think the larger 22's would work fine for guys that are just out for a good trail ride. Its just a theory. Oh and 'Trail Rider", those mud pictures you posted look craaaaazy. Racing beats the hell out of an ATV. I am not a fan of mud riding. I prefer to stay dry .

what the hell does mobbin mean ?

Typical GNCC track conditions Pro racer Jarod McClure with the same Razr tires and setup as Borich and Ballance #2 Pro GNCC and Factory Yamaha racer Tyler Kiser with the same Razr tires and size combo Five time Woman's class champion and Factory Yamaha racer Traci Cecco with the same Razr tires and size setup....

Here's Ballance's championship winning YFZ with 21's in the front and 20's in the rear... Keep in mind that these two guys are the fastest trail riders in the country, they are both factory sponsored riders and can run any size tire they like. Both guys run Maxxis Razr's in the rear and Razr 2's up front. This tire brand and size combo has won more GNCC championships than all other tire brands and sizes combined. Bill Ballance has won atleast 6 Pro championships with this tire setup and Borich won the 2009 championship with the same tire combo. Keep in mind, these guys run tireballs in all four of their tires. Chris Borich with 21's and 20's

The majority of GNCC\XC racers use 21x7x10 up front and 20 inch rears on 9 inch rims. Depending on the track, some guys use 22's on the front. The smaller diameter the front tires, the better its supposed to handle. MX racers use even smaller 19 and 20 inch front tires, because the smaller the diameter, the better shee handles. The only benefit of the larger front tire sizes like 22 and 23 are the added ground clearance. Most racers prefer a better handling quad over any ground clearance gains. Bill Ballance won 9 consecutive GNCC Pro titles with 21's up front and 20's in the back. Same deal for Chris Borich and I think the majority of Pros use the 21-front, 20-rear setup. I realize we're not Pro GNCC racers, but GNCC racing is nothing more than trail riding.... trail riding to the extreme, and they seem to do fine with the 21-20 setup. If you've ever seen any pictures of the GNCC tracks, then you'll realize that if the racers use 20 inch rear tires on these GNCC tracks, the 20's will work fine on your trails. IMO the big 22's on the rear suck when compared to a 20 inch size. The 20's are just more "sporty". They're lower, so its a hellava lot easier to slide the ass-end of the quad. And we all love to slide our quads around corners. 20's will out slide 22's every time. The taller tires raise your frame higher off the ground so you get better ground clearance, but they also raise your center of gravity. Low center of gravity is preferred over a high center of gravity. Taller tires also fuck with your gearing. Going up from 20 rears to 22 rears will cause your power to shift to the top end. You lose some ability to lug around tight trails but you gain some top overall speed. Desert racers run big 23's up front and 22's in the back for this reason. You don't need a tight handling quad for desert racing, you want ground clearance and a higher top speed. Top speed numbers are useless for 98% of us. Honestly how often are you riding trails WOT in 6th gear ? Now of course since the larger diameter rear tires increase your top speed and decrease your low end torque, you can counter this by re-gearing the quad. Another bitch about 22's is the weight issue. Not only do the 22's weigh more, the weight is 'rotating mass'. The 22's will make your engine work harder to spin the heaver tire. The increased weight also plays a role in suspension action too. Your rear suspension will react better to lighter tires. I realize that we Banshee guys usually run the stock rear shock, and that rear shock was originally set up and tested to work with the stock 20 inch tires. The suspension deal is not a major issue, but its one more small nail in the coffin of 22 inch tires. The only scenarios that I can think of that 22 rears are better than 20's would be snow riding and mud bogging. And the 21-front, 20-rear setup is the ideal setup for most sport quads, we all know the Banshee is a different kind of sport quad. The Banshee motor is explosive, hard hitting and sometimes a handful in tight trail situations. The bigger, heavier 22 inch rears, combined with the proper gearing should help tame some of that hard power hit. Iv tried 22 rears in the past and I won't ever buy em again. Last year I bot a used set of 23 inch front Holeshot XCT tires and I won't be buying that size ever again either.

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How bout... "Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this. But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth." Prolly have to use a very small font to get all of this on the back of a Banshee seat.

This is terrible news. She was too young to go...