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Yes

^ that's not what this trucking thread is for. It's for hillarious and outrageous deals with hillbilly redneckafied contraptions!

Depends on what head. If it was on a cub, some one probably had a cool head on it. Problem is some use stock studs, some need longer Pro design studs. Measure what you got and compare it to stockers. Then determine what head you wanna use

I thought buying in touched cheetahs was just part of the process to get another builder to set it up. So that I agree with. That doesn't make the cylinder a piece of shit, that just means Harry's guys are fucking hacks. The few builders I've talked to said if they touch it, just get it raw. Not just CAMATV. I think skeeter is bein fecetious on his numbers....

When they were in, there was no work done to the cylinder. Just domes.

If you do have valves, have they been set up to work with the way may did the exhaust in the cylinder?

By the way, there's plenty of room to put a banshee motor in there. Don't dissapoint us! 450 for a few weeks , then it's gonna need new motor mounts. So maybe hold off on the powder till you swap motors.....

Any one know if ARP has something to replace the base studs on the upper case? I got a set of well worn cases and some of the studs aren't so hot. I can get OEM at a decent price, just wondered if there's something better.

Air leak

This. And don't be a pussy, wet sand that shot with blocks. Not your fingers over paper.

As it is in the photo, the raw looks black. Maybe just fade black up to the current flouecent like it is now. Then black swinger with flouecent accents on hubs and stuff like that.

Those wheels look good. You can have the blue stuff aqua dipped in carbon or something from JDS. He has all kinds of different patterns as well. Maybe find some different color stockers for sale here or ebay.

Where outside Detroit are ya? I'm not working for a few weeks and am bored as hell. I'm in right between Waterford and White lake. Let me know if you want some help sorting it out.

I meant the width. Are they doing the wider stuff or at least stock width? I know their drag shit it titties though

^ would look bitchin if they were side by side and sunk in to the bar pad so the faces were flush. Seen a few trail techs like that that really looked good.

I only expect a few guys to chime in with insite, but here's another question. If so many peoples debates are about the peak numbers being such turd, even on cheetahs with Titan domes and clean up porting. When I see those graphs, some of them obviously make the ridiculous torque but flatline and make these 85-95 hp. So like cam is saying, "are the valves even opening?" What if those bikes were left exactley as is and had block offs installed and matched to the exhaust? I'd imagine it would be less torque for sure but it would show if the problem is within the PV it self or not right?

I was told something similar, however he didn't state that it made a cheetah obsolete. Although what he said was close but due to politics with your friends at trinity. To paraphrase it..... Calvin said something along the lines of. "I wanted a solid all around cylinder that would do everything. So at the time trinity had the most advertised name in the business and the partnership on the cheetah was formed. Then I saw what was happening as I developed the cub cyl and knew that it was only a matter of time before I would have to make sure there was a solid rider's cyl. Eventually the demand grew so we developed the serval. It actually made enough low end that you really don't need the PV. With the cost where it is and the torque being as abundant, the cheetah is practically obsolete. If set up right, the cheetah is the hot ticket if you want it all, but cost and politics are killing sales. " This was at an off road show right after Andy posted some of the first serval runs.

The cheetah is exactley the same lay out as the cub, but with the larger intake and PV. Calvin states it in that thread. So how would it be a superior design? I just know the big ass intake means it takes some tricks to get the volume up to a good velocity and it has to take some thought when dealing with the fact that the auxiliary exhaust ports still trickle around the PV. Some say that's a problem, but in my mind I think it helps to keep the excessive volume of the intake at volume at lower RPM. (Please, some one say if I'm right or wrong) I'm really not wanting to debate what's better or why. I just would like to see this thread go in depth on the do's and dont's of cheetah set up. What most are over looking? What is really going on inside it? How to get it to do what every one thinks it should. Also, two neat thoughts that come from that Aprilla forum thread that Calvin started. 1. He stated that the cub and cheetah have exactley the same layout and exterior material so ports internally are the same. So the difference is the valve and intake. It was mentioned the possibility of using regular cub cyls with banshee intakes, and machining the same PV in to the cub. 2. Another unicorn cylinder idea Calvin and Stephan speak about. Setting up the internal cheetah lay out in side the DM castings. Still 250 intake though. This would mean extra material for rediculous transfer volume, excess material around the exhaust so a little bit could be done to have larger cooling capacity ( remember smaller bore then DM so the room would be there). Also the possibility of being able to make a wider PV blade to control the main exhaust port as well as the auxiliaries. To boot, this would mean new design, so no more exclusive trinity rights, lower cost, and more builders would be able to tinker with them.....

You could be a man, and buy disgusting stuff. Then bling it up your self........ Haha! All joking aside, there are so many different products at so many different levels of quality from different distributors it can make your head spin. But I'd say guys like cascade can hook ya up, or you can have stuff sent out to guys like Jeff at mr bling to make dingy into bling.

That same guy who can make you those motor mounts in your build thread..... Call him.

Shit, I posted the wrong link this is 65 pages of cheetah design and a break down. Lotta TSS info to break down as well, but if you read the responses from Calvin is sorts some things out. http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?246083-TSS-RS500GP-(round-3)-cylinder-problems

Yahtzee... I'll post this, a lot of info from Calvin Pollet. Not many people will read it but I'm sure guys like Cam might appreciate it. It lays some of people's assumptions about the cheetah design to rest. http://m.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=727207&styleid=20

Ohhh really, Is this normal, what causes it and what can fix it............?

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